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@  Fire Blazer : (15 January 2017 - 08:58 PM) @Merc sorry I didn't reply to your PM until now, done
@  Fire Blazer : (15 January 2017 - 07:38 PM) I just hope it's reasonably priced, given that Nintendo isn't offering quite as much as PS+.
@  Fire Blazer : (15 January 2017 - 07:37 PM) as for paid online, I'm totally ok with it... I like it actually. I want premium services. paying for a service only makes sense to me, I always thought it was crazy cool how we got online play for free before, lol
@  Fire Blazer : (15 January 2017 - 07:37 PM) ahahaha, silly idiot. now I kinda want to post though. ugh. even during breaks I don't have enough time to do everything I want to
@  Idiot : (15 January 2017 - 07:30 PM) lol I don't blame you.
@  Mercurius : (15 January 2017 - 03:38 PM) though it basically is spam with how I have idiot set to auto-ignore anyway.
@  Mercurius : (15 January 2017 - 03:38 PM) The front page almost looks like a spambot came in or that we're having another forum raid.
@  Blue Leafeon : (15 January 2017 - 01:19 PM) ohno an idiot took over the forums
@  Idiot : (15 January 2017 - 11:29 AM) Love y'all too.
@  Idiot : (15 January 2017 - 11:22 AM) Oh and also filets.
@  Idiot : (15 January 2017 - 11:22 AM) Mornin fellers. Love y'all.
@  Mercurius : (13 January 2017 - 07:07 PM) although I guess to ensure that a sufficient number of people are online at the same time you might have to include both payment options
@  Mercurius : (13 January 2017 - 07:06 PM) instead we have these subscription fees that are only actually worth paying for by super hardcore gamers who basically spend all the time they can on competitive multiplayer
@  Mercurius : (13 January 2017 - 07:05 PM) pay tiny amounts for when you actually feel like going for a try/a session
@  Mercurius : (13 January 2017 - 07:05 PM) I think the only way you would convince me to actually pay for online play is if it was like an arcade machine
@  Blue Leafeon : (13 January 2017 - 05:50 PM) Depends on the price for me. And whether or not there's games worth said price.
@  Mercurius : (13 January 2017 - 04:19 AM) paid online...you won't be seeing me on mario kart or monster hunter
@  Cero : (12 January 2017 - 04:15 AM) https://www.twitch.tv/shadowcero streaming weeb games
@  kirant : (12 January 2017 - 12:40 AM) I'll plug them again, sure. CGPgrey shows many alternatives better than your insane "weighted by state" system.

Ultimately, votes outside the top 2 parties don't matter typically. Again, McMullin was a viable third party candidate for Ohio. Wouldn't have forced a change in president had his supporters come out swinging, sure, but it does show there is appetite for a third party. The deck is just to heavily stacked against it that it took a madman and an unpopular war hawk to even cause it to even "blip" on the radar.

To also add on, I would doubt any third party would really impact results without serious election reform. Single Transferable Votes makes sense IMO, even with its warts...and even if it would be unlikely to change politics in the USA very much without emergence of a third "middle of the road" party.
@  Rujio : (11 January 2017 - 11:49 PM) this is the part where someone plugs those CGP Grey videos about the problems with the first-past-the-post system

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#1 Fire Blazer

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 02:28 PM

While only Robin/"Avatar" (please do not fucking say "MU" that is so wrong) seem to be a totally unique character at this point in time, Chrom and Lucina have also been confirmed to be in Super Smash Bros. 4 in some way.

It is absolutely AMAZING for Fire Emblem to be getting this much attention, this is definitely one of the greatest highlights of the Fire Emblem community, like, ever.



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 02:56 PM

Female Robin is a nice touch.

Hopefully Lucina is more than a little different to Marth.

Still, I'm stoked.
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 03:13 PM

I don't mind clones at all so eh, though it would've been cool to get more unique characters... but just having 3 is like, more than enough haha, I was ready to accept just two.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 03:37 PM

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 03:39 PM

Lucina Mains gonna be everywhere.

So hyped for the news, i'm so happy that Fire Emblem is getting this type of recognition, it can only bode well!
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 03:51 PM

Glad Fire Emblem got not one, but two new characters even if one of them is a clone.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 04:08 PM

I for one will be maining Robin. Lucina's cool, though I hope Chrom is at least a costume for her, because she learned fighting from him... Compared to Marth, I have no idea how similar she is, though of course she has a lot of potential, given that she spent quite a while cosplaying as him in Awakening. As others have said, she may be more agile, and have different on-hit properties with her attacks.

Mind you, I still would've been very okay with Tiki, Nowi, or on some tragically low off-chance, Panne. They would've been representative of Fire Emblem while being VERY different, gameplay-wise, from Marth.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 05:11 PM

Is it bad that I was a shit ton more excited when I saw Captain Falcon in that trailer compared to the FE characters?
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE (ShadowCero @ Jul 14 2014, 10:11 AM)
Is it bad that I was a shit ton more excited when I saw Captain Falcon in that trailer compared to the FE characters?

Nope. That's just a natural reaction.

As will be mine if they ever confirm R.O.B.. Granted, I suspect it was a one-time novelty but it's heavy long-range fighter with massive recovery that is a robot. That's all I ever needed.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 06:00 PM

Huh. Robin looks like they'll be fun to play.
As for Lucina... I am a Marth main, so I'll at least see how different she plays from Marth.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:27 PM

I am going to play almost everyone, but FE characters will definitely be higher up on my list. How could they not be?!

Considering the popularity of characters is a huge if not the biggest factor in choosing who from a large selection of characters to choose from, none of these really surprised me. I guess not having Chrom playable was a tiny bit surprising but not too much. After the fact though, I do feel a little bad, haha.

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Ditto this and the Roy is my boy! stuff

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 12:03 AM

I checked SF just a bit whilr age and I guess a lot of people were fuming that there might be a Marth clone... Is it weird to say that even though I forgot what Marth's moveset is, I recognized Lucina's moveset from the Brawl mod of Marth? I also figured that people would've called for a lynching or something like that.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 08:50 AM

Apparently Lucina currently is nothing more then a slightly shorter copy-paste Marth with the tipper mechanic removed.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 11:12 AM

TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTALLLLLLLLY MAINING FEMALE ROBIN.

TWINTAILS. YESZ.

I don't get the point of the bronze sword though (especially after Robin explicitly mentioned how he has a levin sword for a reason)

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 11:17 AM

QUOTE (Tenebrae Candidae @ Jul 15 2014, 09:12 PM)
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTALLLLLLLLY MAINING FEMALE ROBIN.

TWINTAILS. YESZ.

I don't get the point of the bronze sword though (especially after Robin explicitly mentioned how he has a levin sword for a reason)

Possibly similar to how the tomes have limited uses, he only has a Levin Sword for a certain number of uses before it breaks... Or he gains the Levin Sword after the tome breaks.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

^That's what it seems like. It seems like you can use both. We'll get more information later on, I imagine.

As far as Lucina goes, I am neither surprised nor upset. Lucina was probably added later on to please fans. She could've just been like, ignored/not added altogether. We've had clones before and she at least is her own character. People were begging her to just be a new skin, now they're upset that she's "just a clone"? Man, get over yourself and stop whining so much, is what I say. And Lucina has very good reasons to be like Marth, unlike Roy--last I checked she not only imitates him and wields the same weapon but is also descended from him. >__________>

Freaking entitled whiners... *pouts because stuff like that upsets me easily*

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:35 PM

From what I've heard Chrom will be Robin's final smash. He/she will pair up with Chrom like you can do in Awakening and do some kind of combo attack. That or he's an assist trophy.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 02:12 AM

I'm just gonna vent a bit about all the "LUCINA'S A MARTH CLONE FUCK THAT" stuff. It doesn't seem to be the consensus here, thankfully, but it irks me and I'm not barred from doing so here, so postarino we go.

Sure, the video showed Lucina using some of Marth's moves, but nothing's confirmed yet. Some of those may have been placeholders or whatnot. Regardless of how things seem now, I wouldn't write her off as a Marth clone until the game is released.

Even if it turns out she is one, that's not the end of the world. Wolf is a Fox clone, and yet they play moderately differently, IMO. Same with Ness and Lucas, to an extent. I don't see the point of shooting down hope for Lucina's originality just yet, or of pretending that clone characters aren't fun in their own ways.

I's kinda funny how quite a few people loved Roy and even want him back, and yet also condemn Lucina for potentially being a Marth clone. Hypocrisy, right there.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 02:37 AM

QUOTE (SmashedFish @ Jul 16 2014, 12:12 PM)
I's kinda funny how quite a few people loved Roy and even want him back, and yet also condemn Lucina for potentially being a Marth clone. Hypocrisy, right there.


Obviously you're missing the fact that Lucina even has the EXACT same idle animations, Roy's was at least different.
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Lucina's animations in general, aside from the counter stance seems to be executed exactly the same as Marth, too. Again, Roy had some slight animation/speed difference.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 06:46 AM

Wasn't excited for Robin at first, but after watching the trailer a bunch of times he's really grown on me. I think I'll probably main him (if Isaac isn't confirmed). I hope his hooded form is playable, because it looked seriously badass.

Lucina being a clone is disappointing, especially since there were so many skills that could be used to give her a distinct moveset.

I was seriously hoping for Leif to be playable for several reasons, but I knew it was a super long shot. Still disappointed though lol.
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