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[Black Man]

Posting it here so it doesn't clog up the TLP topic.

I was bringing up a point about Shuuda in the original TLP topic, and argued that his offense capability made up for his rather average defenses. Then I realized there's no official Tier List for The Last Promise.

There was a tier list for Tactics Universe, but with all the changes having been made, that list is entirely outdated.

Can someone come up with one on a whim? It doesn't need to be perfect, since you guys can just move units up with good enough argument to back up claims. We just need somewhere to start.

[Snow]

Well I might be misremembering, and very badly so, but I think that there was a tier list at one point or another. I remember some of it but not enough to make the whole list, also I decide how good a unit is based on their class and portrait, so I wouldn't be much help there. XD

[Black Man]

I base how good a unit can be off of stats, starting level, join time, and supports. There's probably more factors that go into how good a unit can be, but that's just the basics.

Even if it's a terrible list, just post it anyway so we can at least start with that.

[YakYak]

QUOTE (Snow @ Aug 18 2013, 07:13 PM)

I decide how good a unit is based on their class and portrait, so I wouldn't be much help there. XD

This. So very much this. Oh, and how good their support convos are.

[Seraphinox]

I haven't played the newest version in ages, let me play it through a couple of times and I'll give you my thoughts, and we can go from there

[Black Man]

I've played through it like 3 times already, but I'm still not quite sure what the list should be like. So I will need second opinions.

[Fire Blazer]

There WAS a tier list before but I think it's pretty outdated at this point

TLP is also... not completely like a normal Fire Emblem game so there's a few things with regards to that to think about--e.g. the fate of some characters or the existence of a post-game where the tier list is totally different because join times are totally different (join times are essentially based on levels/stats in the post-game as opposed to actual plot).

[Cero]

Siegfried top tier

Well I do know one unit that would be in the bottom tier levels. I'm not good with tier lists.

[Fire Blazer]

Rachel because of an awful joining time

Sai, almost everyone hates Sai apparently

Rex is up there for high-tier, people who use him know what I'm talking about

Kelik and Anakin are kinda broken and are probably in one of the higher tiers as well thankfully personality etc. isn't part of making these tier lists

[Cero]

"Everybody Hates Sai" The ratings will be off the chart.

[Fire Blazer]

thankfully tier lists aren't popularity contests

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right?

[Black Man]

The problem with Sai is, he's the last unpromoted unit to join your team. And he's severely underleveled. I mean, I know Yue's join time was terrible, but his uses differ greatly, because he could Nosferatu and Solstice enemies early on. Also he attacks Res and has 1-2 range where Sai has to deal with getting countered 80% of the time and his only 1-2 range weapon is rather weak and inaccurate. They both join a chapter before the hardest chapter in the game as well.

At the least, the bottom 2 of the tier list should look like:

Low

Lyam
Leopold
Fredrick
Storm
Lirin
Yue

Bottom

Arthur
Sai
Rachel

Some of the characters are better than others, so feel free to debate them.

[Fire Blazer]

Leopold, Storm, and Arthur are all up a tier IMO. Storm grows really fast and has amazing growths as well as a great inventory and supports, all he has down for him is joining time in the 2nd-part IMO, Leopold has super good defense so unless you think Sylmeria and the money is worth a lot I can't see why he's so low, and Arthur is in a similar case as Storm so I'd put him at Low... but I guess if Monks aren't your thing "Bottom" is reasonable (don't think Low for Storm and Leopold are though).

Just my rambling thoughts~

[Snow]

What? Storm bottom tier, wtf!?

No really XD. I always used Storm, I mean he gains more exp in Siegfried mode and he comes with a promotion item. I get him to level 14-17 and then just let him take some kills in the next chapter.

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They both join a chapter before the hardest chapter in the game as well.

I'm sorry but the hardest chapter in the game has to be either chapter 25 (why can't I use my super shon TT_TT), or any of the ones that follow I guess. Depends on your army.

[Fire Blazer]

Oh yeah I meant to mention that, I think chapter 21 is pretty easy... I STILL get complaints about people missing out on Haas, Storm, Arthur, and Liquid because they tried to be cool and bum rush the chapter or whatever. lol

[Black Man]

Ch21's main problem is the fact it has a cluster**** of enemies in such a small map. And they all move. (Okay, not all of them moved, that's just an exaggeration, but the vast majority of them did) At least Ch25 was well spread out. and half of them moved, or less.

It's the hardest chapter in the game considering your units levels at the time as well as the part of the game it's at. Some of your units may still be unpromoted. At least in Ch25, everyone you bring is promoted.

And IMO, you NEED the money in this game. Leopold isn't worth sacrificing the money you get AND the best weapon in the game for flyers.

As for Storm and Arthur, they have the Rath curse from FE7. Except Arthur is even worse off because his growths don't make up for his lackluster bases. And speaking of Haas, I completely forgot about him. I think he's still better off than Lyam is though because at least he gains EXP.

[Ristau]

Arectaris for to not offend anyone Heaven-tier with post game Regis, because you totally can't max every single character and make them pretty much equal.

Kelik normal for high-tier

everyone else is irrelevant