Which Cavalier is the best in the game?
How bout the best knight too?
For Cavaliers I say Franz and for Knights I say Gilliam.
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Best Cavalier and Knight
Started by Mankut, Mar 27 2009 12:34 AM
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 12:34 AM
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 02:08 AM
Stat wise:
Cavalier: Franz (If not Amelia)
Knight: Amelia.
Coolness:
Cavalier: Kyle. (Awesome face.)
Knight: Gilliam. (awesome face.)
Cavalier: Franz (If not Amelia)
Knight: Amelia.
Coolness:
Cavalier: Kyle. (Awesome face.)
Knight: Gilliam. (awesome face.)
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 06:39 AM
Do you mean just Cavaliers and Knights? Or also their promoted counterparts?
If it's the former, then Franz and Gilliam (since he's the only one to start as a Knight).
If it's the latter, then I include all possible Paladins, Great Knights and Generals, and then the two best units of those classes would easily be Seth and Franz.
If it's the former, then Franz and Gilliam (since he's the only one to start as a Knight).
If it's the latter, then I include all possible Paladins, Great Knights and Generals, and then the two best units of those classes would easily be Seth and Franz.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 03:20 PM
Amelia for stats... Cormag for stats...(hey, his class has knight in it!) Forde because he actually has a personality, not just " oh I'll do anything for you prince(ess) even if I die cause its my duty"...
and then also Cormag for personality...
and then also Cormag for personality...
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 05:50 PM
Seth is actually pretty good. In fact, his growth rates are bigger than Franz's for the most part... but what Franz has over Seth are those extra 20 levels to level up. The most useful Paladin... it's a toss up between Seth and Franz... but you would want to make Franz a Great Knight instead, I think.
The only knight you'll be getting is Gilliam unless you want to make Amelia a Knight... but I wouldn't recommend that. While Knights are pretty cool, their lack of mobility hinders them from what they are supposed to be: front walls. Make Amelia a Paladin if you ever use her.
The only knight you'll be getting is Gilliam unless you want to make Amelia a Knight... but I wouldn't recommend that. While Knights are pretty cool, their lack of mobility hinders them from what they are supposed to be: front walls. Make Amelia a Paladin if you ever use her.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 06:04 PM
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It's the other way around. Seth has 20 (19) levels over Franz. Seth already comes with 1900 Exp. For Franz to get to Lv 20/1, he also needs to gain 1900 Exp; Exp that others could've used as well. Seth is thus taking away less Exp from the team than Franz. Go Seth!
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| but you would want to make Franz a Great Knight instead, I think. |
Nah. Movement > Axes, I'd say. Movement gives more flexibility than axes, and I highly doubt that Franz is going to fare any worse without his axes.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:21 PM
Seth and Gilliam.
Mind you, Seth over basically everyone in the entire game.
Mind you, Seth over basically everyone in the entire game.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 08:51 PM
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It's the other way around. Seth has 20 (19) levels over Franz. Seth already comes with 1900 Exp. For Franz to get to Lv 20/1, he also needs to gain 1900 Exp; Exp that others could've used as well. Seth is thus taking away less Exp from the team than Franz. Go Seth!
Nah. Movement > Axes, I'd say. Movement gives more flexibility than axes, and I highly doubt that Franz is going to fare any worse without his axes. |
I was talking about leveling opportunities, not overall EXP gain but cool. More incentive to use Seth I guess
Great Knights aren't too terrible with their movement, but I see your point.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 11:35 PM
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Even then, Franz needs to be something like Lv 18/0 to be equal to Lv ??/1 Seth, and the comparison will more likely be something like 18/0 Franz vs. ??/6 Seth, which means Seth is still winning, so Franz' levelling opportunities still don't give him an advantage over Seth.
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 01:37 AM
Best Paladin: Seth(Seth is awesome)
Best General: Gilliam(Gilliam is awesome too)
Best General: Gilliam(Gilliam is awesome too)
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 03:30 AM
Just for the sake of it , I did a comparison.
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 03:58 AM
That must be your outcome with your characters. 20/20 stats for an average Seth:
HP: 47.1
Str:23.5
Skl:21.55
Spd:20.55
Lck:17.75
Def:18.6
Res:13.7
for Franz(paladin)
Hp:52.4
Str:23.2
Skl:21.2
Spd:24
Lck:17.2
Def:17.5
Res:9.6
As for me, I think Kyle is the best cavalier, and Gilliam as best knight. Though, Amelia serves well as a knight too.
HP: 47.1
Str:23.5
Skl:21.55
Spd:20.55
Lck:17.75
Def:18.6
Res:13.7
for Franz(paladin)
Hp:52.4
Str:23.2
Skl:21.2
Spd:24
Lck:17.2
Def:17.5
Res:9.6
As for me, I think Kyle is the best cavalier, and Gilliam as best knight. Though, Amelia serves well as a knight too.
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 04:33 AM
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That is very interesting. I wonder what IS was thinking to put in an uber character right from the start. Yeah, FE8 was my first Fire Emblem... and I even used Seth the most and all when I was playing it... I thought I was doing the wrong thing because he was "hogging exp" but I beat the whole game with just him. Imagine that...
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 02:47 PM
Knight is...Gilliam.
Cavalier/Paladin would be.....Either Seth or Orson. I liked Orson.
Cavalier/Paladin would be.....Either Seth or Orson. I liked Orson.
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 03:08 PM
Well.... Franz is faster?
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 03:13 PM
Yes, Franz is faster as soon as he reaches LvL 15/0 or something like that. So? Does that make him better than Seth, who also doubles the majority of the enemies? I doubt it.
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 07:30 PM
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Even then, Seth usually doubles the majority of enemies that Franz does anyways. The usefulness of a character in-game determines "the best" in this case, not final stats.... although Seth still beats him in the long run. And what in the world? Seth even beats Franz in Luck? I usually thought Luck would go to the lesser of the two but I guess I was wrong...
In Creature Campaign, it's a COMPLETELY different story. Who knows... your EWAN may be better than, I don't know... Lute?
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 09:41 PM
I think Forde is the best cavalier. I like balanced guys, they're just a bit easier to ues for me haha.
As for knight, Gilliam because he's just so damn useful. Too bad for SPD and RES though, but eh I like/use him anyways.
As for knight, Gilliam because he's just so damn useful. Too bad for SPD and RES though, but eh I like/use him anyways.
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 10:03 PM
Franz and Gilliam make a great pair, especially because you get Franz earlier, but it depends on RNG really, I'd either go Franz/Gilliam or Forde/Gilliam and although Kyle is decent he just wasn't amazing to me besides like, defense IIRC.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:26 AM
Or you could go evil, make Amelia a knight, then a great knight, same with Gilliam, and Make Franz/Kyle/Forde all great knights.
Or use two Generals and no mounted.
Also, to Wraith, my Ewan was always better than my Lute.
Or use two Generals and no mounted.
Also, to Wraith, my Ewan was always better than my Lute.
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