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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho
@  Elwood : (27 September 2019 - 05:52 AM) I still come here everyday because this is still my homepage in Firefox! XD
@  Ezra : (25 September 2019 - 03:07 PM) I also miss the days the forums I used were more active :(
@  Fire Blazer : (15 September 2019 - 05:39 AM) I do kinda miss the days these forums were active :(
@  Ezra : (29 August 2019 - 04:14 PM) *BOX!!!*
@  kirant : (19 August 2019 - 12:49 PM) Huh. Bothammer time.

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#21 Hughes

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 04:12 AM

QUOTE (shadowofchaos @ June 29, 2009 05:48 pm)
Holy crap I suck ._.

Yup. But it's way better than before!

First thing I notice is the red and yellow in the clothing... NEON COLORS=FAIL. Always copy from clothing on other FE mugs, that doesn't count as splicing if you take the colors.

Is he chewing tobacco? Cause he's got a huge lump in his mouth, my left.

Aha! He does have a neck. But it looks like its curving severely to the right right, the slight curve combined with the yellow thing makes that.

Wheres the separation between the ears and the face? Is that growing out of his temple? Should be more like on the side of his head. could use a bit more of the lightest color in there too.

Notice how the collar on the right slants out away from the body right after the shoulder? It makes it look SO bulky. Usually that just slants right in, and the hair goes over it, not the other way around.

The yellow thing (I dunno what that's called!) looks like it's just torn in the middle, which would be OK but the rest of his clothing seems all spick and spam. Moar symmetry plz!

Eyes are MUCH better, though the right still looks bigger than the left.

Left arm bends funny... not sure how to make it better on this one but it looks funny.... maybe make the whole thing slant down just a bit harder? I'm not sure ._.

Obviously the clothing isn't done, so I'm not gonna mention how the red things just floating about in space....

I think that about covers the SMASH this time...

Oh wait. Right above the ear is a bit of hair that slicks back behind the ear, and it doesn't really... end... at the face... it just kinda cuts off and becomes skin, like a cliffhanger. Try making the hairline curve more.

WAY WAY WAY better than before!! Keep going!!

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 04:33 AM

I'm still going to wait for you to fill and shade everything in before I kill it.

But to start, work on that outline.

Why do the arms start to go inward? D:

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 04:41 AM

Try to envision where his hands would be if this was made into a full body.... That's right, he'd be beating. Keep it appropriate Shadow, there are children about!!
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 06:05 AM

@ Hughes: -______-

How the heck did THAT kind of reference get in here!?

LMAO

The way I would see it if the arms are inward... it would be leaning on the sword hilt with the blade stuck in the ground like an "attention" position... Meh... I won't even attempt a full body until this has been thoroughly destroyed and improved...

@ Blazer: I wouldn't expect anything less... smile.gif

Edit: Hughes, I TRIED to address what you said with the "cliffhanger" behind the ear... I really don't know how... Here's my attempt... I also made the "Dracula collar" less wide... I also don't know how to "end" the red thing at the left arm (the right of the picture when you look at it)

I probably also failed at separating the head from the ear... that line looks... ugly... I'll address it after i get some sleep...

Regarding the "Neon" colors... I took care of the yellow... meh... I want to keep the red because it's in the battle sprite... lol

I also "figured out" that the arm "line" doesn't connect to cut off the shoulder from the body... LOL

I have the weird feeling that I'm making it look like Syaoran from Cardcaptors and Tsubasa Chronicle...

Maybe I should use him as a reference :/

Blazer, what about the outline? I really don't know what I'm doing here... lol

I just started drawing on the lineart stage... I really didn't think about the color of the outline if that's what you meant...

Btw, Hughes, I suck at hair... seriously... I tried to make the hair go over the collar at the back... but I think I failed miserably... Looks like the collar just... disappears...

Also, any tips on the right arm? (Our left) Looks... shrunk ._.

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 08:11 PM

Dude Hughes that was....wow....mind in the gutter.

Oh and Shadow keep it up. Thats better than I could even begin to do.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 05:29 AM

Meh... I suck at eyes... I guess I spliced in Kent's...

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Still haven't shaded the clothes...
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 05:36 AM

It looks much better. The only problem is are the eyes, they look odd. The mouth is real tiny. the yellow part the left(OPV) is the worst shading. It only uses two colors, and there's too much of the darker tone. The right has to little shading. Where's the hair is going down the hair shading is real messy. The nose is real small. He looks stiff. The neck shading has to much of the second color tone.There needs to be shading around the eyes. Using a reference would be useful.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:04 AM

LOL I suck... halp me learn shading?

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....... does NOT look like a couple...

*cries in corner*

I need the mug to be a little shorter, yes? XD
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:10 AM

Use a reference. And take my criticisms into consideration.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:33 AM

SMASH TIME YAY!!

Alright his mouth is light. Put another dark pixel inbetween what you got, and it won't look like he's biting his lip because Ninian is near him ._.

There's a pillow of shading by his nose that looks odd... Maybe make it more blocky? I can't put my finger on it but it looks odd.

Red thing: just throw a cord over his shoulder so it's attached to SOMETHING.

And... Oh my god is that really it?!?! I must be losing my touch.... Blazer help!


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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:34 AM

Lol, I came up with more problems.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:38 AM

Well maybe you should post them? So sue me, I eat it at shading too.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:42 AM

Read the previous posts >_> I already did.

EDIT: I just looked close up to it and wow are there a lot more shading issues than I thought. Use my version as ref. is you want.I didn't even bother with the hair.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 04:57 AM

Wow... thanks for the reference dude smile.gif

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Though the right eye (OPV) shading kinda looked akward to me...
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 07:03 AM

His right arm OPV looks very... small compared to the left.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:07 AM

Hmm... I'm really thinking about just making a splice for now... and make a custom one for me once I get better...
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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:26 AM

Hmm, if I were you I wouldn't give up too soon, no. Again, splice a guideline, and use it as your model. And besides, what you did already isn't bad. ...wanna see what I mean?

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...sorry I did some slight changes, but I was somewhat bored this night. XP But I hope this mugs don't appear as a "modification", but only as a guide... I hope they can help you see better where the problem could be or not. Splicing it and mixing it around with "Perfect" pieces from the mugs should help you see what parts are good or not most times.


If you really ask me, your face is already very good. Your clothes lack detailing, I guess, but that could be solved by taking pieces of other clothes and mixing them.


Didn't do that looking to steal your work, BTW, nor just randomly touch it up for you, I just wanted to do something to help... You see, I am all in favor of ambitious plans like yours. happy.gif
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