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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho
@  Elwood : (27 September 2019 - 05:52 AM) I still come here everyday because this is still my homepage in Firefox! XD
@  Ezra : (25 September 2019 - 03:07 PM) I also miss the days the forums I used were more active :(
@  Fire Blazer : (15 September 2019 - 05:39 AM) I do kinda miss the days these forums were active :(
@  Ezra : (29 August 2019 - 04:14 PM) *BOX!!!*
@  kirant : (19 August 2019 - 12:49 PM) Huh. Bothammer time.

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#1 Cero

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 11:12 PM

https://www.youtube....nnel=GameXplain

Honestly, this game looks bad ass. Confirmed some stuff like Avatar main character. And I'm hyped for changing the environments in maps and what those new classes are. Also those commander of Nohr and Hoshido look so awesome. Definitely choosing Nohr side first.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 12:51 AM

I'm kind of disappointed by the colour scheme so far...it really feels like they had a story in mind and decided in the last few seconds "Hey, let's make a second story using our game's villains".

Maybe I'm old...maybe I'm just jaded. But the Nohr army honestly plays up about 90% of the expected "bad guy" tropes from stripperific female mages to the dark palette, horrifying king-guy, and more. One is literally described as glory-seeking which is typically used to describe villains and the other gets peace-loving...a typically heroic trait. Then the often used colour scheme in the video is black and white...often used for that black/white moral concept.

It seems like they want you to make a single choice but give you the option to go against what they're encouraging. Now I typically wouldn't say this except everything adds the same thought to it...down to colours. I'm hoping they make it much more morally ambiguous than the video suggests (such as the Hoshino are quite xenophobic and would brutally massacre every last Nohr citizen if you side with them...or maybe that the Nohr, for all their faults, actively encourage self-satisfaction and are far less strict on their people than the Hoshino are) but I get the vibe that they basically give you a playable villain route.

It also is kind of disappointing that it sounds like it'll come down to a single decision. I have gotten into a lot of branching games recently and I suspect this game will use a very strict moral system (as in, pick the obvious hero choice or the obvious villain choice) or will just ask you at one point "which side do you go to?", ala Skyrim's Civil War, where you get one final chance to defect to the side you want. I'm guessing it use the latter as I could see a lot of fan rage if they start along the lines of "Hey...I dislike the Nohr. Why did my character side with them? Is it because I was opportunistic?".

That said, I'll (probably) pre-order, own on day 1, and play the hell out of it because it's new FE material.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 01:07 AM

I'm glad you typed all that kirant because now I don't have to. I like my branching paths to be not so set in stone morally speaking. Maybe I've just been spoiled by great rpgs, but if I see branching paths my expectations skyrocket. On the other hand in super excited to play it. Even if it doesn't improve on awakening it'll still be a great game.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 01:18 AM

I'm honestly so excited for it, but at the same time in a few days my hype's gonna die down and I'ma just hope it doesn't have a crap story like that, Kirant. I'm feeling all types of ways about this latest direct, really (Lucas! SMTxFE!).

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 10:06 PM

I am personally super excited and I will be getting it ALL, lol.

I mean, ultimately I am a Fire Emblem fan so I kinda would have anyway, but the trailer did a good job of hyping me up with CGs and stuff and I am sold on two different approaches to the same story and decisions within that that ultimately affect how the game plays out... it seems fresh, dynamic, and potentially better than FE13

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Maybe I'm old...maybe I'm just jaded. But the Nohr army honestly plays up about 90% of the expected "bad guy" tropes from stripperific female mages to the dark palette, horrifying king-guy, and more. One is literally described as glory-seeking which is typically used to describe villains and the other gets peace-loving...a typically heroic trait. Then the often used colour scheme in the video is black and white...often used for that black/white moral concept.


you have a point here, hopefully it's not nearly as black/white or full of stereotypes as it is made out to be right now. It seems like each side genuinely does care about certain things, but they have different base philosophies/mentalities/ways of going about things. One thing that was suggested was that as the Hoshido, you are playing a more straight-forward role of a hero, but with Nohr, you are changing them from the inside or playing a hero with a dab of "gray"; not nearly as clean-cut, maybe makes some shady decisions

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It also is kind of disappointing that it sounds like it'll come down to a single decision. I have gotten into a lot of branching games recently and I suspect this game will use a very strict moral system (as in, pick the obvious hero choice or the obvious villain choice) or will just ask you at one point "which side do you go to?", ala Skyrim's Civil War, where you get one final chance to defect to the side you want. I'm guessing it use the latter as I could see a lot of fan rage if they start along the lines of "Hey...I dislike the Nohr. Why did my character side with them? Is it because I was opportunistic?".

That said, I'll (probably) pre-order, own on day 1, and play the hell out of it because it's new FE material.


What it sounds like is, after chapter 6, you will have a VERY clear decision where you to decide to go down one route or the other. If it's digital, you choose and get locked out of the other route, but if it's physical, it's already been decided based on what game you get (but you can download the other route afterwards either way). However, after that, how the actual story pans out once you choose a side seems to be affected by a lot of other things like smaller decisions, what you do in battles, etc.; we haven't seen specifics but this is just what they've kinda said and such.

I'm hopeful that they won't just make it a cheap version of a "split-path"/"decision-making" story and that they actually try (especially since they seem to be borrowing a bit from SMT here; just look at the game's title and the general themes and such...), but we'll see. As you said, I will almost definitely end up pre-ordering and owning on day 1 because it's new FE material and at the very least it deserves a chance tongue.gif

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I'm glad you typed all that kirant because now I don't have to. I like my branching paths to be not so set in stone morally speaking. Maybe I've just been spoiled by great rpgs, but if I see branching paths my expectations skyrocket. On the other hand in super excited to play it. Even if it doesn't improve on awakening it'll still be a great game.


haha yeah getting spoiled by other games can be a problem, FE has done this and that in their stories but I don't know how well they can execute this, we'll have to wait and see if it's actually close to a masterpiece of a story or if it's just a shoddy gimmicky story. (It's probably somewhere in between, is what I think)

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I'm honestly so excited for it, but at the same time in a few days my hype's gonna die down and I'ma just hope it doesn't have a crap story like that, Kirant. I'm feeling all types of ways about this latest direct, really (Lucas! SMTxFE!).


mhm mhm I'm also very excited and I kinda HOPE my hype dies down because I am way too excited and into it right now haha, and yeah LUCAS! SMTXFE! WOO!

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