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@  xcrash1998 : (30 November 2019 - 11:07 PM) New fictional holiday "Index Day"
@  Fire Blazer : (28 November 2019 - 08:52 PM) yeah just guest bots and stuff I think :( we really were active once upon a time though...
@  kirant : (26 November 2019 - 03:48 PM) No invasion. I imagine a lot of guest bots visiting for indexing purposes.
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:15 PM) How is most people online at 959 for the 8th of October of this year? Is that right? Did I miss something or was there somekind of spambot invasion?
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:06 PM) I know what you mean, it gets awkard to post something unrelated to the current conversation, and even if somebody picks up on it, it would just become a huge mess in the c hatbox if a multitude of groups talk about different topics.
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho

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#1 SmashedFish

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 03:52 PM

I've finally decided to commit to getting better at drawing, so I figured that here is as good of a place for it as any other. As the title says, I'm trying to give up on having shame in my own works, because that only holds me back. I'll give what I'm attempting my best shot, and if the result is ultimately unsatisfactory, then I'll chalk it up to inexperience and continue on instead of letting that bother me.

 

That said, I'm feeling pretty tapped in terms of inspiration. Does anyone have suggestions/requests? I can't promise that I'll finish all of them or that the results will be satisfactory, but I'll give anything a try. Just keep it simple (ie more of characters/objects than scenes/stories) and I'll see what I can do.


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 05:48 PM

Do you have any current examples of your style that you can show?



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Posted 23 April 2015 - 06:21 PM

Meanwhile, I'm currently agonizing over being unable(because I need it to be graded first to pass the class) to crush my silver(I mean that literally) ring that I worked on for around 25-30 hours because I messed up one thing about it so I can pretend that mistake never happened.

 

It seems pixiv artists like to draw shiploads of fanart for their favorite characters, if you're into improving on human-looking drawings via practice. (I don't like to disgrace characters I like with bad artwork though so I don't do it...) if you're looking for more environmental things it's probably best to reference a photograph and try to copy it without tracing. Fuck being original, ideas get in the way of quantity.

 

In the end however, experience doesn't really do that much unless you actively look for how to do something better. Looking at other people's artworks always helps for learning about new aesthetics...not so much for helping you feel better about yourself though.

 

I will never come back into this topic again because I'm afraid of searing my eyes, btw. (you don't want an ass like me around anyway)


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 06:43 PM

Do you have any current examples of your style that you can show?

 

I haven't drawn anything of note recently, but I'll see about tracking down a few things I've drawn in the past to use as examples. I'll also try to get a few things drawn today.

 

Meanwhile, I'm currently agonizing over being unable(because I need it to be graded first to pass the class) to crush my silver(I mean that literally) ring that I worked on for around 25-30 hours because I messed up one thing about it so I can pretend that mistake never happened.

 

It seems pixiv artists like to draw shiploads of fanart for their favorite characters, if you're into improving on human-looking drawings via practice. (I don't like to disgrace characters I like with bad artwork though so I don't do it...) if you're looking for more environmental things it's probably best to reference a photograph and try to copy it without tracing. Fuck being original, ideas get in the way of quantity.

 

In the end however, experience doesn't really do that much unless you actively look for how to do something better. Looking at other people's artworks always helps for learning about new aesthetics...not so much for helping you feel better about yourself though.

 

I will never come back into this topic again because I'm afraid of searing my eyes, btw. (you don't want an ass like me around anyway)

 

I know you're not coming back, but I'll reply anyway.

 

First, would I post my art in a public forum while admitting that I'm unskilled if I was afraid that someone would receive it harshly? :P Compared to countless others, and even plenty of other Shrine members I'm sure, I have no business whatsoever holding a pencil. Were someone to tell me that to my face, I'd agree. (I'd prefer something more constructive, but let's not deceive ourselves here, I'm bad.) That's kind of the point, though. I'm not great now, and I'll continue to not be great until I do something about that. In the meanwhile, all are welcome here- asses or not, but especially you.

 

Regarding your ring, I'm sorry to hear that it didn't turn out to your standards, and that it bothers you so badly that that's your only option. I was in that place for longer than I care to admit, but I think I've realized that the only way to get out is in forcing myself to accept my mistakes and learn from them. Again, I know I'm far from perfect, and if maintaining the delusion that I am is holding me back, then my pride is going to have to take a hit.

 

I do appreciate your advice, though. I'll try to keep that in mind as I continue on.


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