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@  xcrash1998 : (30 November 2019 - 11:07 PM) New fictional holiday "Index Day"
@  Fire Blazer : (28 November 2019 - 08:52 PM) yeah just guest bots and stuff I think :( we really were active once upon a time though...
@  kirant : (26 November 2019 - 03:48 PM) No invasion. I imagine a lot of guest bots visiting for indexing purposes.
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:15 PM) How is most people online at 959 for the 8th of October of this year? Is that right? Did I miss something or was there somekind of spambot invasion?
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:06 PM) I know what you mean, it gets awkard to post something unrelated to the current conversation, and even if somebody picks up on it, it would just become a huge mess in the c hatbox if a multitude of groups talk about different topics.
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho

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#41 Dave Strider

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 10:20 PM

we've already gone over this. you're a bit late shadow.
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:06 AM

Maybe because you seem to be ignoring any valid argument? I don't know, just something I noticed.
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 11:53 AM

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QUOTE (Holy Kensai @ August 27, 2009 01:44 pm)
Then again, I also didn't use the max.

Exactly. It's more efficient to use maximum amount of characters in any given FE.

THAT'S REALLY COOL. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO DEBATE ME OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO GO ON AND ON ALL DAY?

That's just stupid (I'm not insulting you in any way, I hope). It's not sensible to use the max amounts of FE characters. I'll take your debate challenge.

NB My arguements in above post are not complete due to lack of time at the moment.

Edit: I just realised that this topic is a ploy to get post count up
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE (cox21 @ August 28, 2009 07:53 am)
QUOTE (Reinfleche @ August 27, 2009 12:46 pm)
QUOTE (Holy Kensai @ August 27, 2009 01:44 pm)
Then again, I also didn't use the max.

Exactly. It's more efficient to use maximum amount of characters in any given FE.

THAT'S REALLY COOL. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO DEBATE ME OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO GO ON AND ON ALL DAY?

That's just stupid (I'm not insulting you in any way, I hope). It's not sensible to use the max amounts of FE characters. I'll take your debate challenge.

NB My arguements in above post are not complete due to lack of time at the moment.

Edit: I just realised that this topic is a ploy to get post count up

youre right, hes just trying to get his post count up!
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:53 PM

These are both Garcia and Ross' averaged stats at 20/20, or in Ross' case, 10/20/20, both as fully leveled Warriors.

Garcia;

Health-59, Str-30, Skl-23, Spd-14, Luck-17, Def-16.75, Res-9.25

Ross;

Health-52.9, Str-30, Skl-21.45, Spd-17.1, Luck-26.8, Def-17.75, Res- 13.4


Now, as you can see, Garcia defeats Ross in Health, Skill, and Defense.

As you can see, Ross defeats Garcia in Speed, Luck, and Resistance.

Now, I know that, like you're all saying, nobody is going to get to 20/20 before the end of the game, but that's really a moot point, because this isn't a debate about which one is best at the end of the game, just overall, which one is best.

I would have to say that Ross=Garcia. Neither really has an advantage. With Garcia, you get a stronger Warrior, and with Ross you get a faster Warrior. It doesn't really matter which one you pick, in the end you're going to get a pretty good warrior, either way.

I'll probably post a new post with Hero stats.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE (Genesis Rhapsados @ August 28, 2009 02:53 pm)
These are both Garcia and Ross' averaged stats at 20/20, or in Ross' case, 10/20/20, both as fully leveled Warriors.

Garcia;

Health-59, Str-30, Skl-23, Spd-14, Luck-17, Def-16.75, Res-9.25

Ross;

Health-52.9, Str-30, Skl-21.45, Spd-17.1, Luck-26.8, Def-17.75, Res- 13.4


Now, as you can see, Garcia defeats Ross in Health, Skill, and Defense.

As you can see, Ross defeats Garcia in Speed, Luck, and Resistance.

Now, I know that, like you're all saying, nobody is going to get to 20/20 before the end of the game, but that's really a moot point, because this isn't a debate about which one is best at the end of the game, just overall, which one is best.

I would have to say that Ross=Garcia. Neither really has an advantage. With Garcia, you get a stronger Warrior, and with Ross you get a faster Warrior. It doesn't really matter which one you pick, in the end you're going to get a pretty good warrior, either way.

I'll probably post a new post with Hero stats.

Ross can become a berserker too, and many people like berserkers cause of the crit rate and immense power of the axes.

Some prefer berserker over hero/warrior.

Just to say you know..

I like Hero more in FE6 and FE7, the weapon triangle doesn't matter all that much in FE8 so I prefer berserker.

Although Hero is still awesome. Better then Warrior, for me atleast.
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 01:46 PM

ross beats garcia in def... check again
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 02:14 PM

I know, but Serenes had a pre-warrior stats up already, so I just copy+pasted...xD

EDIT- King, if you have a dispute with the stats, talk with Vincent, from Serenes. That's where I got the stats for an averaged level 20 Ross+Garcia warrior.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE (Dath @ August 29, 2009 03:14 pm)
I know, but Serenes had a pre-warrior stats up already, so I just copy+pasted...xD

EDIT- King, if you have a dispute with the stats, talk with Vincent, from Serenes. That's where I got the stats for an averaged level 20 Ross+Garcia warrior.

No no he doesn't have a problem, you just looked wrong lol.

In your post you said the averages of Ross and Garcia as warriors, it clearly says that Ross has higher defence.
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 02:37 PM

Yes...? Is that so hard to believe?

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 03:51 PM

This topic isn't serving it's purpose. If you want to debate me Ross vs. Gracia now, where I defend Garacias. Say so. That's what this topic is for. Not for saying Gracia/Ross>Ross/Garcia. It'sa signup topic guys. Sheesh. So much trouble for one debate. I might as well just finish my Serenes debate...





Awww crap. My Serenes debate. I forgot about it... ohmy.gif
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (Genesis Rhapsados @ August 28, 2009 10:53 am)
Garcia;

Health-59, Str-30, Skl-23, Spd-14, Luck-17, Def-16.75, Res-9.25

Ross;

Health-52.9, Str-30, Skl-21.45, Spd-17.1, Luck-26.8, Def-17.75, Res- 13.4


Now, as you can see, Garcia defeats Ross in Health, Skill, and Defense.

As you can see, Ross defeats Garcia in Speed, Luck, and Resistance.


I'll probably post a new post with Hero stats.

Dath, this is what King and Kiara are talking about. They're saying it should be

Now, as you can see, Garcia defeats Ross in Health and Skill.

As you can see, Ross defeats Garcia in Speed, Luck, Defense, and Resistance.



Hell, if you want to use Stats, Ross is better. He is 18.05 stat points over Garcia, who is 7.65 points over Ross, in their respected areas. Evening out, Ross is still 10.4 stat points better.

Plus, the Defense and Resistance means less damage, means less HP needed anyways.

Speed means more doubles, less times being doubled, so it's good.

Lower skill means hits less, but that's not something to worry about in FE8.

Ross is better by Stats.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 06:53 PM

Because they're both going to reach 20/20 in-game.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 07:04 PM

@Kensai:

1) Did you read my above post AT ALL?
2) Nobody's getting to 20/20 w/out tower/arena/ruins/skirmish abuse until CC. so stop using 20/20 stats cuz they're inaccurate
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:20 PM

@Reinfleche

1)Yes, and I ignored it. Obviously other people are debating, and if you don't want to take part, GTFO. You made the topic, but you don't control it.

2)My team in FE8 got to 20/20, without abuse. Both of us use Personal Experience, so it does not count. Therefore, we compare their stats at 20/20. Learn the rules. You want them compared, we'll compare them on an even playing field.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Holy Kensai @ September 04, 2009 04:20 pm)
@Reinfleche

1)Yes, and I ignored it. Obviously other people are debating, and if you don't want to take part, GTFO. You made the topic, but you don't control it.

2)My team in FE8 got to 20/20, without abuse. Both of us use Personal Experience, so it does not count. Therefore, we compare their stats at 20/20. Learn the rules. You want them compared, we'll compare them on an even playing field.

1) Actually, I can control it. I will right now, if you want.
2) It's not an even playing field because, ON AVERAGE, characters reach 20/5 by endgame in FE8.
3) This is getting out of hand. I'm glad I bought that close topic thingy.
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