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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho
@  Elwood : (27 September 2019 - 05:52 AM) I still come here everyday because this is still my homepage in Firefox! XD
@  Ezra : (25 September 2019 - 03:07 PM) I also miss the days the forums I used were more active :(
@  Fire Blazer : (15 September 2019 - 05:39 AM) I do kinda miss the days these forums were active :(
@  Ezra : (29 August 2019 - 04:14 PM) *BOX!!!*
@  kirant : (19 August 2019 - 12:49 PM) Huh. Bothammer time.

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#21 Mankut

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:28 PM

Wow, Garcia leads against an unpromoted level 10 unit. That is SO fair.

Check Ross's stats at level 20 mercenary and you'll see how great he can be.
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:28 PM

Mankut >_> 20/20 stats isn't everything...



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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE (Mankut8397 @ August 27, 2009 01:28 pm)
Wow, Garcia leads against an unpromoted level 10 unit. That is SO fair.

Check Ross's stats at level 20 mercenary and you'll see how great he can be.

Ross isnt mercanary
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:30 PM

How are stats not everything?

Plus,when Ross becomes a Hero, he can use axes AND swords.

Wow, I am so stupid.
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:31 PM

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That would have taken EXTREME favoritism. Seriously, non trainees arent' expected to promote until chapter 15. Being ready to promote at chapter nine is ridiculous. Oh, and if you want to have that count as an advantage for Ross, just imagine what that would do for Garcia and how much easier it would have been?

One little fail chapter and ross is level 10 , promoting at the start of the next chapter.

That one little chapter (the chapter with neimi and colm) doesn't matter all that much. Let Ross kill from far away and if you do it good you have him to level 10.

A bit of babying/favoritism but damn, it IS worth it.

After him promoting to Pirate or Fighter he will do pretty lots of damage with high hit rate as well. And with the extra levels he gets before promoting to the normal tier (aka first tier) he will get more level ups then Garcia and most likely end up getting good.

I do have to agree with Amelia or Ewan. You get them too late to train them without tower abusing.

But why does Ross get to boss abuse, but not Garcia? Is that really fair? No. If Ross gets to boss abuse to Lvel 10 journeyman, Garcia gets to boss abuse to lv 20 fighter. Let me see...

Journeyman!Ross Lv 10/0/0, HP:21.3, Str:9.5, Skl:5.15, Spd:5.7, Luk:11.6 Def: 5.25, Res:1.8
Fighter!Garcaia Lv 20/0 HP:40.8, Str:18.4, Skl:13.4, Spd:10.2, Luk:9.4, Def:9, Res:3.4

Oh hey look guys, Garcia wtfpwns Ross in every stat except lolluck. He practically has 2x as much HP, str, spd, def and res, and practically 3x as much skill. sure he loses in luk but nobody cares about luk unless it's liek 0. And there not getting crit by these fail enemies anyway.

"but that's not fair"
Boss abuse isn't fair. Thus it isn't a valid argument, and shouldn't be considered in tier lists or debates. I rest my case.

I don't think you got the point.

Who said ANYTHING about boss abuse? Let Ross kill most of the normal enemies, heal if hit and he will get to level 10 the same chapter. The boss and the brigand close to the chests are all for anyone else.
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:33 PM

Because IN-GAME nobody ever reaches 20/20. You must consider all the factors...

^Then that is favouratism and if there was a ranking system your tactics would be out the window so fast...
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:36 PM

Oh, wow. Just let him kill all the enemies and he becomes good. NO WAY! I could do that with Knoll and make him good. I could do that with FIONA, OR LYRE, OR MEG, OR ASTRID in FE10 and they'd be good. That doesn't mean that they're better than Oscar, or Ranulf, or Gatrie, or Geoffrey, does it?
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:42 PM

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Mankut >_> 20/20 stats isn't everything...

Correction: 20/20 stats aren't ANYTHING in a debate. Why? because nobody reaches it in story mode without babying.

@Mankut: I know it's not fair. My point is saying that you can't make comparisons in debates that use boss abuse. Thus any argument where anybody boss/arena/tower/ruins abused fails to truthfully explain why a unit is good/bad.

@Kingultra: But nobody cares since realistically, without baying, Ross won't be promoted to Fighter/Pirate until the beginning of ch. 8. and then everyone else promotes at ch. 15 while Ross doesn't get to do so since he isn't level 20. And don't give me any "you can promote at lv 10" crap, then everyone else promotes even EARLIER, like ch. 10 maybe, and you miss valuable level ups.

Anybody wanna actually debate me instead of this ranting? It gets to the point instead of me having to reply to all of you at once. Plus you guys aren't saying anything with much weight. And you're getting off topic since the point of this topic is "IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE ME ROSS VS GARCIA, THEN SAY SO, AND I'LL MAKE A TOPIC ABOUT IT." I hope you get the message now.
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:44 PM

The point Kiara is making is that in that level barely anyone is getting experience anyways, so let Ross take most of it, get to level 10, and bam.

It wouldn't hurt ranked walkthroughs that much because 1)Stop living in the past. 2) It would boost experience rank a lot.

And Seraph/Rein, in FE8 all my characters reached 20/20 without abuse. Then again, I also didn't use the max.

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:46 PM

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Then again, I also didn't use the max.

Exactly. It's more efficient to use maximum amount of characters in any given FE.

THAT'S REALLY COOL. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO DEBATE ME OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO GO ON AND ON ALL DAY?
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:48 PM

I disagree. Why use more people when you can use less, but still cover all your needs?

That's like, well hey, I can use one condom, or I can put on ten!
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:49 PM

Because you can do it faster. Thus you can do it more efficiently.
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:51 PM

i never promote at lvl 10

also, what does 20/20 mean?
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:51 PM

Oh no? You can shave off one turn per battle? That's hardcore stuff man, and it'll totally worth bogging down your team for.

I would actually say that in Real Time, it's faster as you move less, and thus faster actions.

20/20 means that you promote at level 20, and get the character to level 20 again.
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:54 PM

Unless somebody wants to debate me, I'm gonna just close this topic.
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:19 PM

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:31 PM

If Ross is sooooo good then why do you have a problem debating me about it?
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:42 PM

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:57 PM

Suuuure you aren't.

Srsly though, I wanna debate somebody on this.
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Posted 27 August 2009 - 10:12 PM

Ross sucks. Y? Because I said so.
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