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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho
@  Elwood : (27 September 2019 - 05:52 AM) I still come here everyday because this is still my homepage in Firefox! XD
@  Ezra : (25 September 2019 - 03:07 PM) I also miss the days the forums I used were more active :(
@  Fire Blazer : (15 September 2019 - 05:39 AM) I do kinda miss the days these forums were active :(
@  Ezra : (29 August 2019 - 04:14 PM) *BOX!!!*
@  kirant : (19 August 2019 - 12:49 PM) Huh. Bothammer time.

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#1 TheGreatCantin

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 11:00 PM

Hey guys,

Since replaying a few FE hacks and trying my hand at hacking, I came to the realization that hacking events was pretty difficult and that extending some stuff in the game wasn't exactly clean either (Yeah...ain't called hacking for nothing).

I wanted to work on creating an open-source engine (preferrably in Java/C#) that could have the tools required to freely create a Fire Emblem/Turn and tile based strategy RPG and the custom elements needed for the game.

Anyone interested?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:30 PM

Sort of like, FE7X? Or whatever it's called? o_o
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:50 PM

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:57 PM

Had no idea such a thing existed D:

I'll look up on it and see if it's in the same style.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:27 AM

Sees first post: Ooh! I know C++ and I'm learning Java! Let's do thi-

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Regardless, I may not be the best at either, but if you need someone, I'm your man.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:14 AM

I wanted to try it with C# and XNA, mainly because I do good in C#, and I'm starting to get used to it, but I know that the expensive IDE and the not very accessible open source solutions aren't necessarily attractive to people.

I can do Java, however I'm a developer, I have no experience with graphics whatsoever. I'd start the engine by coding the game logics, or the rule interpretors, in the wider scope I'm trying to reach, and once we manage to get a tile based system up and running, I'm willing to try graphics and 3D should we get there.

If that's something that interests you,please show yourself

And fish, if you have any suggestions, go ahead and post them, I want to be as open as possible on this to be able to have a wider group of users in the end ^^

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:05 PM

Is C# much like C++? I imagine the syntax and such to be different, but I'd have no idea as to the scope of the changes. If they're comparable, I could teach myself some and be of use. If not, probably not as much. I'd still go ahead and do what I can, though.

If we went with java, I could somewhat do graphics; a 2d interface that doesn't look atrocious, anyway. 3d could be used (how, incidentally? a game with 3d characters, objects, and such?), but I haven't any experience with it. Again, I'd try to self-teach, but dunno how much that'd help.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:05 PM

Is C# much like C++? I imagine the syntax and such to be different, but I'd have no idea as to the scope of the changes. If they're comparable, I could teach myself some and be of use. If not, probably not as much. I'd still go ahead and do what I can, though.

If we went with java, I could somewhat do graphics; a 2d interface that doesn't look atrocious, anyway. 3d could be used (how, incidentally? a game with 3d characters, objects, and such?), but I haven't any experience with it. Again, I'd try to self-teach, but dunno how much that'd help.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:14 PM

C# is easier than c++ and syntaxically similar to java, with some additional features such as properties and extension methods. I don't mind explaining those differences in a tutorial if needed.

I'll post more details later, I'm in class and an iPod touch isn't exactly good for long texts.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:26 AM

Alright, here's the goal I have for the project.

I would like to try and make an engine that is extensible, and that doesn't only apply to fire emblem. For those who wonder what I'm talking about, my basis for the project is the Intelligent Systems turn-based strategy RPGs for the GBA, mostly Fire Emblem, but if possible, I'd like the engine to be extensible enough to be able to add maps of advance wars or such games eventually, but that's if we manage to get Fire Emblem working.

I'd prefer 2D for the graphics, this way, other than sprites and portraits, we won't have to bother with graphical design in the game. We'll be able to concentrate on the engine and the stuff we want to work on.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:33 AM

Interesting goals. I agree, best to start with FE for now and then add others. I think making a universal turn-based engine is a great idea though! Why stop with FE, after all?

Agreed a hundred percent on graphics.

Also, good to hear on C#. When do we start?

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:13 AM

I'll try and have the basic specifications written down by the end of the week. I want us to start coding with a few objectives in mind, rather than just trying stuff left and right. I got my project management classes, so I have a few ideas on how to get this started, and make it easy for anyone to join in.

I'll get on that ASAP, although I have a paper to complete in the next two weeks, so I might only post parts in here.

As for C#, if you could just look up Automatically implemented properties, Extension Methods and Lambda functions, that would be great. I'll answer any questions you have on those, but these are some of the rare differences with Java other than the layout and object libraries. Also, check if you can obtain visual studio. If you cannot, we could make the project in Java rather than C#, so that people can join in without needing to pay a 800$ IDE for the sole purpose of getting us Fire Emblem fanboys some easy way to be entertained.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:55 AM

1) I'd be very interested in this project. Unfortunately, C# isn't one of the languages I know well (Lua, MATLAB, and basic C++). Also, the fact that I'm on 4-5 different development teams, in the final year of my undergraduate degree (which includes 3 project based classes), and preparing for post graduate exams doesn't help.
2) I'd be happy to submit help in any way possible though.
3) I'd look up Tactics Universe. It's an old program that seems to hold a bit of what you're thinking of.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:01 PM

Okay, I made some checks, and there are free versions of Visual Studio/C# available. Although they are express editions with some limitations. Everyone will be able to use C# and XNA that way. I haven't tested VS2010 express, so I cannot say if it will be exactly what we need, but I think it will be able to hold our project.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 07:50 PM

Looks good, and I'd be fine with using C# over Java. Awaiting further info.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:35 AM

Okay, some infos from me, Mid terms are in two weeks, I thought they were in three or four...So I'll be busy preparing those for the next two weeks. After that, I'll spend some time writing a detailed specification for the engine and basic game logic.

Sorry about the delays, I want to get this project started as much as everyone who wants to get involved.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:53 PM

I'm alright with this, barring sudden unexpected projects for me. I'd advise to go ahead for those- IRL stuff comes before internet projects- but try to keep delay down besides. Good luck btw.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:23 AM

So was this dropped or....

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:04 AM

I'm still interested in helping any way that I can. Problem is, we need Cantin for any real progress on this, as I can't do this myself.

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