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@  Mage Girl : (17 February 2020 - 02:33 AM) I can safely say I'm so far the only person to post to this shoutbox in 2020...
@  Fire Blazer : (24 December 2019 - 03:17 AM) naw, it's when the bots make collaborated efforts to crawl places, lol
@  kirant : (23 December 2019 - 05:20 AM) What do we do on Index Day? Give each other bots?
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@  xcrash1998 : (30 November 2019 - 11:07 PM) New fictional holiday "Index Day"
@  Fire Blazer : (28 November 2019 - 08:52 PM) yeah just guest bots and stuff I think :( we really were active once upon a time though...
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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.

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#1 Ryar24

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 04:02 AM

Hey there!

Recently, I'd been playing one Fire Emblem mod after another, and after seeing the works of people like Blazer, MageKnight404, and Alfred Kamon, I just felt inspired and it had me thinking, "Wow... I wish I could make something like that."

So, I downloaded a few GBA Fire Emblem hacking programs toward that end. Now, I have to admit that my computer literacy is pretty basic and modding is very new territory for me. When I see code, it just looks like a bunch of numbers and letters to me, but I'm hoping it will eventually mean something.

Anyway, I'm aware it's a long road ahead and I'm bound to have a ton of questions to ask along the way, so I figured it's probably best to keep them all in one topic. Also, when I ask a question, may I ask that it's answer in the simplest terms possible? As I said, I'm totally new at this, but I'm willing to learn!


Anyway, the first thing I'm wondering about is character portraits, like how does one take the portrait of a character in one game, and insert it into another? (I want to make a mod of FE7, replacing Lyn with Marisa (FE8). Aside from the obvious portrait, cutscene, and battle sprite changes, she'd operate pretty much the same way Lyn originally did, except maybe renaming the class "Merc Lord," if I can. tongue.gif ) It sounds like it should be a simple copy & paste over the original, or is it something a bit more complex than that? Also, are the portraits pulled directly from the game data, or from another source, and if it's the former case, what program accesses it?

Also on the subject of character portraits, how do people make originals? I'm guessing they use an existing portrait as a reference to tell where the eyes, nose, neck, and all that are, and edit over it accordingly, but I could be wrong...

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 05:22 AM

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Also on the subject of character portraits, how do people make originals? I'm guessing they use an existing portrait as a reference to tell where the eyes, nose, neck, and all that are, and edit over it accordingly, but I could be wrong...

sometimes they use parts from existing ones

sometimes they do what you said

sometimes they go from scratch

whatever the case, they're going to be doing a fair bit of manual work one way or another

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Anyway, the first thing I'm wondering about is character portraits, like how does one take the portrait of a character in one game, and insert it into another? (I want to make a mod of FE7, replacing Lyn with Marisa (FE8). Aside from the obvious portrait, cutscene, and battle sprite changes, she'd operate pretty much the same way Lyn originally did, except maybe renaming the class "Merc Lord," if I can.  tongue.gif ) It sounds like it should be a simple copy & paste over the original, or is it something a bit more complex than that? Also, are the portraits pulled directly from the game data, or from another source, and if it's the former case, what program accesses it?

what you're asking about is fairly easy because of the available programs for hacking developed specifically for FE

it's a tad more complex than a copy and paste but nothing really confusing (I'd explain it to you in detail right now but I'm on 3 hours of sleep since yesterday's morning and plenty of people here can explain it better or as well as I can)

anyway I generally suggest that you read the Ultimate Tutorial before asking too many questions, and don't underestimate how difficult this can get beyond really simple edits

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 05:33 PM

From the Ultimate Tutorial:
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First, you need a portrait with frames and a chibi. I can’t help you with this. This is a spriting thing. You’ll have to learn how to sprite and make your own portraits or request portraits from others (the latter is a bit difficult—people don’t wait around for random people to request portraits, most of the time).

Does this refer to custom portraits or all portraits? If it's just the custom portraits, then where do the existing portraits come from, or rather, is there a program in FEditior or Nightmare that can pull them from the game data? The answer may be in the Ultimate Tutorial as well, but if so, I haven't found it yet...

EDIT:
I THINK I may have figured out part of it. Using FEditor's Portrait Editor, I saved Marisa's portrait data as .png files, and then loaded them over Lyn's data. I clicked Save each time to make them stick. However, I'm still yet to figure out how to apply those changes to the actual game, since Lyn's portrait is still there.

EDIT 2:
Okay, read further into the tutorial, and finally made the change stick, so mission accomplished... for now. Now to figure out how to change the displayed name...

EDIT 3:
I noticed something strange. Just playing around with Nightmare's Character Editor, I altered Lyn's parameters somewhat (growth rates and element in particular) and now she only attacks enemies from the map, instead of going into the battle screen (I did check the options menu, and it's supposed to go to the battle screen). The reason I figured this is that Sain and Kent's stats are left untouched, but they still go into the battle screen.
Speaking of Sain and Kent, by the way, I'd replaced their portraits with Amelia and Franz, respectively (yeah, I'm sure it's going to be an interesting tale. Feel free to ask me about the storyline I have in mind). Now, as funny as it was to see Amelia try to hit on Marisa (a cutscene that will be changed, obviously, not that I have a problem with lesbianism or anything smile.gif), their faces are glitched. I'm guessing The Sacred Stones had some sort of programming associated with portraits that Blazing Sword lacked, and I'm guessing I have to erase part of their face display that's incompatible with FE7, but I don't know what part. Oddly, Marisa's portrait transition turned out fine, though I'm guessing that's because either Lyn's face had wider range or Marisa lacked that facial feature that's not compatible with FE7...
Here are some pictures showing my problem:
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Also, is it possible for Eliwood's Knight Lord class with Durandal, Hector's Great Lord Class with Armads, and Lyn's Blade Lord Class with Sol Katti to be primary battle sprites instead of alternates for when those weapons are used?




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