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#41 Dave Strider

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 10:20 PM

we've already gone over this. you're a bit late shadow.
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:06 AM

Maybe because you seem to be ignoring any valid argument? I don't know, just something I noticed.
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (Reinfleche @ August 27, 2009 12:46 pm)
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Then again, I also didn't use the max.

Exactly. It's more efficient to use maximum amount of characters in any given FE.

THAT'S REALLY COOL. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO DEBATE ME OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO GO ON AND ON ALL DAY?

That's just stupid (I'm not insulting you in any way, I hope). It's not sensible to use the max amounts of FE characters. I'll take your debate challenge.

NB My arguements in above post are not complete due to lack of time at the moment.

Edit: I just realised that this topic is a ploy to get post count up
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE (cox21 @ August 28, 2009 07:53 am)
QUOTE (Reinfleche @ August 27, 2009 12:46 pm)
QUOTE (Holy Kensai @ August 27, 2009 01:44 pm)
Then again, I also didn't use the max.

Exactly. It's more efficient to use maximum amount of characters in any given FE.

THAT'S REALLY COOL. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO DEBATE ME OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO GO ON AND ON ALL DAY?

That's just stupid (I'm not insulting you in any way, I hope). It's not sensible to use the max amounts of FE characters. I'll take your debate challenge.

NB My arguements in above post are not complete due to lack of time at the moment.

Edit: I just realised that this topic is a ploy to get post count up

youre right, hes just trying to get his post count up!
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:53 PM

These are both Garcia and Ross' averaged stats at 20/20, or in Ross' case, 10/20/20, both as fully leveled Warriors.

Garcia;

Health-59, Str-30, Skl-23, Spd-14, Luck-17, Def-16.75, Res-9.25

Ross;

Health-52.9, Str-30, Skl-21.45, Spd-17.1, Luck-26.8, Def-17.75, Res- 13.4


Now, as you can see, Garcia defeats Ross in Health, Skill, and Defense.

As you can see, Ross defeats Garcia in Speed, Luck, and Resistance.

Now, I know that, like you're all saying, nobody is going to get to 20/20 before the end of the game, but that's really a moot point, because this isn't a debate about which one is best at the end of the game, just overall, which one is best.

I would have to say that Ross=Garcia. Neither really has an advantage. With Garcia, you get a stronger Warrior, and with Ross you get a faster Warrior. It doesn't really matter which one you pick, in the end you're going to get a pretty good warrior, either way.

I'll probably post a new post with Hero stats.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE (Genesis Rhapsados @ August 28, 2009 02:53 pm)
These are both Garcia and Ross' averaged stats at 20/20, or in Ross' case, 10/20/20, both as fully leveled Warriors.

Garcia;

Health-59, Str-30, Skl-23, Spd-14, Luck-17, Def-16.75, Res-9.25

Ross;

Health-52.9, Str-30, Skl-21.45, Spd-17.1, Luck-26.8, Def-17.75, Res- 13.4


Now, as you can see, Garcia defeats Ross in Health, Skill, and Defense.

As you can see, Ross defeats Garcia in Speed, Luck, and Resistance.

Now, I know that, like you're all saying, nobody is going to get to 20/20 before the end of the game, but that's really a moot point, because this isn't a debate about which one is best at the end of the game, just overall, which one is best.

I would have to say that Ross=Garcia. Neither really has an advantage. With Garcia, you get a stronger Warrior, and with Ross you get a faster Warrior. It doesn't really matter which one you pick, in the end you're going to get a pretty good warrior, either way.

I'll probably post a new post with Hero stats.

Ross can become a berserker too, and many people like berserkers cause of the crit rate and immense power of the axes.

Some prefer berserker over hero/warrior.

Just to say you know..

I like Hero more in FE6 and FE7, the weapon triangle doesn't matter all that much in FE8 so I prefer berserker.

Although Hero is still awesome. Better then Warrior, for me atleast.
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 01:46 PM

ross beats garcia in def... check again
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 02:14 PM

I know, but Serenes had a pre-warrior stats up already, so I just copy+pasted...xD

EDIT- King, if you have a dispute with the stats, talk with Vincent, from Serenes. That's where I got the stats for an averaged level 20 Ross+Garcia warrior.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE (Dath @ August 29, 2009 03:14 pm)
I know, but Serenes had a pre-warrior stats up already, so I just copy+pasted...xD

EDIT- King, if you have a dispute with the stats, talk with Vincent, from Serenes. That's where I got the stats for an averaged level 20 Ross+Garcia warrior.

No no he doesn't have a problem, you just looked wrong lol.

In your post you said the averages of Ross and Garcia as warriors, it clearly says that Ross has higher defence.
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 02:37 PM

Yes...? Is that so hard to believe?

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 03:51 PM

This topic isn't serving it's purpose. If you want to debate me Ross vs. Gracia now, where I defend Garacias. Say so. That's what this topic is for. Not for saying Gracia/Ross>Ross/Garcia. It'sa signup topic guys. Sheesh. So much trouble for one debate. I might as well just finish my Serenes debate...





Awww crap. My Serenes debate. I forgot about it... ohmy.gif
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (Genesis Rhapsados @ August 28, 2009 10:53 am)
Garcia;

Health-59, Str-30, Skl-23, Spd-14, Luck-17, Def-16.75, Res-9.25

Ross;

Health-52.9, Str-30, Skl-21.45, Spd-17.1, Luck-26.8, Def-17.75, Res- 13.4


Now, as you can see, Garcia defeats Ross in Health, Skill, and Defense.

As you can see, Ross defeats Garcia in Speed, Luck, and Resistance.


I'll probably post a new post with Hero stats.

Dath, this is what King and Kiara are talking about. They're saying it should be

Now, as you can see, Garcia defeats Ross in Health and Skill.

As you can see, Ross defeats Garcia in Speed, Luck, Defense, and Resistance.



Hell, if you want to use Stats, Ross is better. He is 18.05 stat points over Garcia, who is 7.65 points over Ross, in their respected areas. Evening out, Ross is still 10.4 stat points better.

Plus, the Defense and Resistance means less damage, means less HP needed anyways.

Speed means more doubles, less times being doubled, so it's good.

Lower skill means hits less, but that's not something to worry about in FE8.

Ross is better by Stats.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 06:53 PM

Because they're both going to reach 20/20 in-game.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 07:04 PM

@Kensai:

1) Did you read my above post AT ALL?
2) Nobody's getting to 20/20 w/out tower/arena/ruins/skirmish abuse until CC. so stop using 20/20 stats cuz they're inaccurate
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:20 PM

@Reinfleche

1)Yes, and I ignored it. Obviously other people are debating, and if you don't want to take part, GTFO. You made the topic, but you don't control it.

2)My team in FE8 got to 20/20, without abuse. Both of us use Personal Experience, so it does not count. Therefore, we compare their stats at 20/20. Learn the rules. You want them compared, we'll compare them on an even playing field.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Holy Kensai @ September 04, 2009 04:20 pm)
@Reinfleche

1)Yes, and I ignored it. Obviously other people are debating, and if you don't want to take part, GTFO. You made the topic, but you don't control it.

2)My team in FE8 got to 20/20, without abuse. Both of us use Personal Experience, so it does not count. Therefore, we compare their stats at 20/20. Learn the rules. You want them compared, we'll compare them on an even playing field.

1) Actually, I can control it. I will right now, if you want.
2) It's not an even playing field because, ON AVERAGE, characters reach 20/5 by endgame in FE8.
3) This is getting out of hand. I'm glad I bought that close topic thingy.
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