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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho
@  Elwood : (27 September 2019 - 05:52 AM) I still come here everyday because this is still my homepage in Firefox! XD
@  Ezra : (25 September 2019 - 03:07 PM) I also miss the days the forums I used were more active :(
@  Fire Blazer : (15 September 2019 - 05:39 AM) I do kinda miss the days these forums were active :(
@  Ezra : (29 August 2019 - 04:14 PM) *BOX!!!*
@  kirant : (19 August 2019 - 12:49 PM) Huh. Bothammer time.

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 11:46 PM

http://gbatemp.net/t...eleased.399541/

Yep. Totally a thing now. Don't even try to play a game though. It doesn't even run homebrew at full speed right now afaik. Either way that was really fast. Most emulators don't pop up till after the console had been around for awhile. Either way it's pretty exciting news imo. I'll never be able to use it on my current setup(and probably wouldn't anyway tbh. I really don't like stealing from Nintendo. I don't mind ripping off Microsoft, but the big N really seems to care about its fans which means a lot to me)

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Posted 14 October 2015 - 02:34 AM

Pretty crazy that we have this already. This along with the 3ds emulator is crazy. Pretty soon we'll have a steam emulator Kappa


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Posted 14 October 2015 - 02:55 AM

The 3ds emulator is really making some progress too. Some people with dedicated gaming setups have been getting 45fps(~75% speed) with commercial games(ocarina of time 3d in particular)

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 01:56 AM

Nintendo cares about its fans? Well, Im sure they care more than Square Enix.. so theres that.
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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:28 AM

Well...they aren't Microsoft, so basically I'm gonna let Nintendo's shit go.

In all seriousness though they actually make an attempt to listen to their fans most times. They don't really go about it the right way(looking at sales for what you develop isn't ACTUALLY listening to your fans), but I can see an effort. On the other hand back when the rpg lovers called for xenoblade chronicles to be localised in America it happened. That wasn't originally part of the plan. It took Sony how many years before they remade ff7 without just straight up doing a direct port?

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:49 PM

that's pretty crazy, and in a way maybe slightly worrisome, haha, though I'll give that emulators can lead to some cool stuff--I don't think the WIi U has many games people would be interested in translating or the like but it could maybe lead to some cool Smash 4 mods (for fun only) and also, GAME PRESERVATION, since y'know, that's kind of cool/important (IMO)


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 12:16 AM

Smash 4 mods are quite a long way away if the 3ds scene is any indication. I won't bother you with the details, but basically the encryption is top notch. I'm more looking forward to the homebrew that comes out of it(perhaps a ds emulator on WiiU? It has the power for it in theory). Anyway I don't have a WiiU, and probably won't given how close the NX announcement is assuming things go the right way at e3 next year.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 05:46 AM

Nintendo cares about its fans?

Given the treatment of the 6th Pokemon generation (my understanding is that items are almost impossible to transfer between games without having a lot of time and 2 3DSes...and here are insane restrictions between communicating from ORAS to XY), I think the answer is that they care JUST enough to make it a higher level of caring than other companies but not so much that we should really commend them for it. 


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 10:16 AM

From what I understand though the restrictions on communications were caused by things in oras that didn't exist in x/y.granted that could be fixed with an update(keep in mind that would be a pretty massive update though which could upset some people that would be incapable of downloading it due to lack of space), but still I don't think that it was on purpose.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 10:43 PM

Nintendo doesn't care about the fans. If they did we would have got the Battle Frontier back.


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 02:51 AM

From what I understand though the restrictions on communications were caused by things in oras that didn't exist in x/y.granted that could be fixed with an update(keep in mind that would be a pretty massive update though which could upset some people that would be incapable of downloading it due to lack of space), but still I don't think that it was on purpose.

Fanboy's gonna fanboy.

Fair enough on that thought.  This is the first time they've ever introduced new Pokemon inside a generation that they didn't preplan. 

 

It is an interesting conundrum though...Nintendo certainly never planned it out this way when we look at older intrageneration crossover but it looks like their approach is to just leave it alone as well.  Even if it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, you'd figure the team would plan far enough in advance to at least put blank spaces in their old games to fill up if they needed to.  Heck, data is cheap and the entire game is about 1.7 GB if memory serves.  A small few megabyte update doesn't eat up that much of your memory card...at least from memory.  It is probably a manageable process and really seems like the right thing to do since it's basically stating the alternative is dropping 40 bucks to keep playing with all the Pokemon (and a 2nd 3DS if you want to move your Megastones over since my understanding is Pokemon Bank won't let you transfer items).  We could attribute it all to incompetency or perceived lack of value in not making a patch.


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 03:16 PM

Oh there's plenty of possible blank space available given that the cartridges can have up to 8gb of data on them(no sauce for that atm, but I can link something later if anyone is interested), but I disagree with you on the update thing. The update would have to include models for new mega evolutions(plus kyogre and groudon's primal evolutions), data for movesets, certain hidden abilities that aren't available in X/Y, and they would have to update the pokedex as well. I really don't think it would be as small an update as you're thinking tbh. I still think that's the route they should have gone with though. Compatibility issues between the same generation are more than a little problem.

Edit:I'm forgetting something important here though. Namely that we're talking about Pokémon. People are gonna make room for am update.

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 05:50 AM

The update would have to include models for new mega evolutions(plus kyogre and groudon's primal evolutions), data for movesets, certain hidden abilities that aren't available in X/Y, and they would have to update the pokedex as well. I really don't think it would be as small an update as you're thinking tbh. I still think that's the route they should have gone with though. Compatibility issues between the same generation are more than a little problem.

Looking at that, most of it is in the orders of KB to a MB of data provided Nintendo was smart enough to intentionally add in spare space, no?  The effects of abilities and the core mechanics of moves are virtually nothing and their most intensive aspect is programming.  What would really eat the space is our 3D models.  And those I could see in around 100 MB range.  (Source: I have none.  Just purely guessing.  But it can't be too much since they both have very similar block size allotments (14 000 vs 14 499 according to Google).

 

(Also, Pokedex?  I'm not aware but are Mega Evolutions listed in the Pokedex?)


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Posted 23 October 2015 - 09:37 AM

Aren't they? I thought they were. I could be wrong though.




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