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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho
@  Elwood : (27 September 2019 - 05:52 AM) I still come here everyday because this is still my homepage in Firefox! XD
@  Ezra : (25 September 2019 - 03:07 PM) I also miss the days the forums I used were more active :(
@  Fire Blazer : (15 September 2019 - 05:39 AM) I do kinda miss the days these forums were active :(
@  Ezra : (29 August 2019 - 04:14 PM) *BOX!!!*
@  kirant : (19 August 2019 - 12:49 PM) Huh. Bothammer time.

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#1 Cero

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 05:34 AM

It has been dealt with, hopefully it won't happen again

 

Blazer outlined most of it in this post on SF: http://serenesforest...showtopic=67612


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 12:37 PM

So glad that was over and done with before I got on. Especially in the chatroom. >_>

 

Very terrible. Not surprised at all about most of the individuals involved, except Arch. He seems to imply he was drunk in his apology, although he's honorably not blaming that on his actions.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 12:55 AM

Holy--

 

(Preface - this is all written after the entire topic on SF.  Also worth noting that I don't use Discord at all, so my personal investigation skills are limited to this forum)

 

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So...yeah. 

 

I am actually more disappointed more than anything else about all this.  I mean, I get drunkenness.  I get black humour, busting balls, and the like.  But I am really quite disappointed by the actions.  It's tough to articulate...but I think the best way for me to put it is that I like to see the best in people.  I'm an optimist even if the situation doesn't call for it.  And in this situation, I feel the same is warranted.  But it still doesn't sit well. 

 

I feel I should attempt to see the best of it.  I try to view this as a night of drunken revelry which got out of hand.  But I feel that shitposting and the other arguments of trolling used there are a little less than satisfying.  Again, I want to view this in the nicest way I can...but it doesn't stick well with me. Trolling and shitposting are acts of playing a con.  I'm an old man on the internet (just a bit older than Blazer) and I consider trolling a long game.  You have to pick an objectionable opinion that you know will offend people and stick to it for a long time.  Revel in the frustration of them debating you or taking you seriously.

 

As such, I see it more as an act of vandalism than trolling or shitposting gone wrong.

 

Regardless, Blazer has taken the public front on other forums.  He's the legitimate admin on this site (whereas my role is more for day-to-day activity on this forum) and has addressed the issue to a satisfactory degree.  Figured it'd be worth letting everyone know I wasn't dead yesterday.  Just buried in books.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 04:49 AM

I had no idea.... Now I'm just furious. People fucked with my friends... To angry to type anything appropriate so I'll leave it there.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:30 PM

For the most part, I'm not particularly surprised any of it happened, especially when I saw the individuals involved. What does actually bother me is that A CERTAIN SOMEONE actually posted in Zak's topics about his late friends and acted...inappropriately, to say the least, about the whole matter. The fact that he did this really proved to me that he hasn't changed at all and that I'm right to continue avoiding him like I did in the old days. (Also, his apology on serenes made it all the more clear that he wasn't even remotely sorry.)


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 03:24 PM

While I have no background with most of these individuals, correlating the archived images of the exchange and the comments on the SF topic would yield a similar conclusion to me.  Namely, the individual seemed more sorry they were punished for the action, not sorry for the actual course of events. 


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:34 PM

That's what I expect most apologies to be about. What I am a bit surprised by is that Arch apparently gave up leadership over at FEU for this considering Arch didn't really do anything much at all during said raid(from what I remember witnessing it in person), but I suppose it was their responsibility to dissuade it too...


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Posted 10 December 2016 - 11:20 AM

That's what I expect most apologies to be about. What I am a bit surprised by is that Arch apparently gave up leadership over at FEU for this considering Arch didn't really do anything much at all during said raid(from what I remember witnessing it in person), but I suppose it was their responsibility to dissuade it too...

He might have been encouraging it behind the scenes.


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Posted 14 December 2016 - 04:12 PM

Well, that's... surprising, in the worst way possible. Something I didn't expect to ever see in this community, I haven't heard a story like this even from the WoW community*, which is understandably filled with garbage because it has millions upon millions of people, so those guys hit a new low.

 

I'm also surprised with how well you handled with it and reported the situation, Blazer, I don't know if I'd do the same if I had a stronger connection to this place and were on your shoes.

 

* Then again, maybe I wasn't paying enough attention?

 

I had no idea.... Now I'm just furious. People fucked with my friends... To angry to type anything appropriate so I'll leave it there.

 

Now, that's the most Fire Emblem thing I've seen someone say in these forums lately. (Don't mean anything bad by it, just sharing my amusement.) 



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Posted 16 December 2016 - 05:29 AM

I had no idea.... Now I'm just furious. People fucked with my friends... To angry to type anything appropriate so I'll leave it there.

 

I feel ya dude. I don't get upset much about personal stuff but it irrationally upsets me when people badmouth people I actually care about.

 

 

For the most part, I'm not particularly surprised any of it happened, especially when I saw the individuals involved. What does actually bother me is that A CERTAIN SOMEONE actually posted in Zak's topics about his late friends and acted...inappropriately, to say the least, about the whole matter. The fact that he did this really proved to me that he hasn't changed at all and that I'm right to continue avoiding him like I did in the old days. (Also, his apology on serenes made it all the more clear that he wasn't even remotely sorry.)

 

 

While I have no background with most of these individuals, correlating the archived images of the exchange and the comments on the SF topic would yield a similar conclusion to me.  Namely, the individual seemed more sorry they were punished for the action, not sorry for the actual course of events. 

 

sounds about right which is why I liked your posts

 

 

 

That's what I expect most apologies to be about. What I am a bit surprised by is that Arch apparently gave up leadership over at FEU for this considering Arch didn't really do anything much at all during said raid(from what I remember witnessing it in person), but I suppose it was their responsibility to dissuade it too...

 

yeah, that was an interesting choice. not like i asked for any kind of punishment or anything, so this was just something they did.

 

 

He might have been encouraging it behind the scenes.

 

I wouldn't put it past him, but I don't want to assume, since we don't know

 

 

Well, that's... surprising, in the worst way possible. Something I didn't expect to ever see in this community, I haven't heard a story like this even from the WoW community*, which is understandably filled with garbage because it has millions upon millions of people, so those guys hit a new low.

 

I'm also surprised with how well you handled with it and reported the situation, Blazer, I don't know if I'd do the same if I had a stronger connection to this place and were on your shoes.

 

* Then again, maybe I wasn't paying enough attention?

 

 

Now, that's the most Fire Emblem thing I've seen someone say in these forums lately. (Don't mean anything bad by it, just sharing my amusement.) 

haha, it might have happened at some point but perhaps it's so big you wouldn't know

 

but yeah, in the end a community is just a group of individuals, so in that sense like... anything can happen, if all it takes to reflect on a community is the action of a small number of its individuals.

 

what do you mean about the attention thing? XD. I was relatively calm because I've been modding since I was young so I learned through experience how to deal with crap. I learned the hard way, by making lots of mistakes and getting into fights and such and being overly dramatic and emotional at times, lol. It's not like I wasn't disturbed by it or didn't hate it, but in the end getting super upset about it wouldn't have really done anything to help me anyway, in the sense that if I can control my anger I might as well and that comes across better to others in terms of communication and whatnot *shrug*


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Posted 16 December 2016 - 01:49 PM

what do you mean about the attention thing? XD. I was relatively calm because I've been modding since I was young so I learned through experience how to deal with crap. I learned the hard way, by making lots of mistakes and getting into fights and such and being overly dramatic and emotional at times, lol. It's not like I wasn't disturbed by it or didn't hate it, but in the end getting super upset about it wouldn't have really done anything to help me anyway, in the sense that if I can control my anger I might as well and that comes across better to others in terms of communication and whatnot *shrug*

 

Um... the only thing I said about attention was that maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to WoW's community to spot a case similar to what happened here. Maybe you meant the "connection" part? What I meant by it was that, if I felt a connection to this forum and the people here on the same level as you and the others, I'd probably be very pissed and wouldn't have been able to deal with this as well as you did.






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