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@  Idiot : (25 May 2018 - 06:05 AM) See I've never even played Vesperia on account of it's 360 exclusivity in America. But from screenshots and such I've seen, it's super pretty.
@  Elwood : (25 May 2018 - 05:56 AM) I really really didn't like Vesperia's combat system but it's still one of my favorite games. That game's visuals, characters and story are phenomenal.
@  Idiot : (25 May 2018 - 05:33 AM) I think something similar to Vesperia's art sytle would be great. That game is just super pleasant to look at.
@  Fire Blazer : (25 May 2018 - 01:41 AM) and yeah, it's about time they do a new engine, I'm assuming that's why it's been more than 1 year since the last Tales of game (and why it feels so long), lol. hopefully it's good. I'd kinda like for them to go back to colorful games and maybe either get a good art style going assuming they can't just make it outright look good (I'm not a fan of going for more realistic graphics only for the textures to be like, low-res...)
@  Fire Blazer : (25 May 2018 - 01:40 AM) been hearing Berseria is a better game, even though what I saw of it didn't really impress me. I do still plan to play it eventually though.

and idr about the opening but Zestiria had a solid song. just kinda catchy lol
@  Idiot : (25 May 2018 - 12:46 AM) Speaking of which, I hear the next one will use a whole new engine. Maybe they'll like; animate the lips, too.
@  Idiot : (24 May 2018 - 10:58 PM) Tales** also. Oopsie poopsies.
@  Idiot : (24 May 2018 - 10:58 PM) Berseria is a better game though, I quite liked it.
@  Idiot : (24 May 2018 - 10:57 PM) I've come to realize that Takes of Zestiria has a super rad opening song, and Berseria's was a steaming pile of doo doo.
@  Fire Blazer : (24 May 2018 - 01:55 AM) lolol

@Rujio yeah, I remember hearing something like that too. It makes enough sense, remaking a game is a bit less work than coming up with an entirely new one, haha.
@  Rujio : (22 May 2018 - 04:15 AM) Apparently FE2 was remade because IS was looking ahead to the Switch, but couldn't start developing for it yet, so they did the simplest/shortest project they could.
@  Idiot : (22 May 2018 - 02:56 AM) Yikes. If that was me acting smart, I think I may be dumber than anyone thought.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 May 2018 - 07:16 PM) @Kirant yeah, in a way it is, but also FE1/3 were kinda already remade already, so in that sense, FE2 makes sense (being the oldest game to not be remade, lol)
@  Fire Blazer : (21 May 2018 - 07:16 PM) tfw Idiot tries to sound smart XP
@  Fire Blazer : (21 May 2018 - 07:16 PM) lol
@  Idiot : (20 May 2018 - 11:20 PM) So,the answer is the coin itself.
@  Idiot : (20 May 2018 - 11:19 PM) Oh yeah if you do that, the coin will go up... And then it will go down, thanks to gravity. Genius.
@  xcrash1998 : (20 May 2018 - 02:26 PM) Time for a coin toss
@  Idiot : (20 May 2018 - 01:32 AM) I'm conflicted in deciding which question to answer.
@  xcrash1998 : (19 May 2018 - 01:58 PM) What's up, anything down?

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#1 Rango

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 09:57 AM

On GameFAQs, where I browed, Fates seems to be favored. Yet, the fanbase tends to relentlessly bash the plots of both to the point where arguing over it means absolutely nothing.
 

Otherwise, on a gameplay standpoint, which do you feel is the better game?


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:03 PM

Awakening is an all around superior experience imo. Neither are really great though. If you want the best gameplay look to the Gba or the GC/WII games.

But to answer the question specifically...i might have to put fates above awakening in terms of only gameplay. As a whole game it's easily a piece of trash, but strictly gameplay I would put it at a 4.2 where awakening is a solid 4.

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:23 PM

Awakening is superior in every aspect, IMO. The gameplay wasn't nearly as annoying, the characters were somewhat better, the story was definitely better (although still watery and inferior to 90% of the previous games) and just overall a more enjoyable experience. The fact that Awakening actually made me feel sad about characters dying for story purposes, and had me on edge near the end of the game when Grima was being revived, says something to me. Especially since Fates never actually succeeded in manipulating my emotions simply because of how nothing was handled properly. (The one time it did, it was entirely in the wrong way. Breaking my willing suspension of disbelief so hard that it could never recover.)

 

Although, like Zak said, the GBA/DS/GC/Wii U games are vastly superior to both in almost every area.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 10:15 PM

I rarely rate games based on mechanics, usually rating based on story and or characters. But Fates did remove one of my favorite features from Awakening and that is the secondary character being able to attack when teamed up/combined. It was a way to get weaker units xp while using a strong unit as a shield. Awakening's tiny feet thing still annoys the ever living crap out of me though so Fates all the  way.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:07 AM

Awakening was a better game in most aspects imo.

 

Gameplay's a coin flip - I just don't like what Fates did to it.

 

Story is, as my Conquest experience tells me, better in Awakening - which is worrying.

 

Characters...I like some of the Fates designs and character outlines, but the supports and characterisation just falls flat - and then there's the shoddy reusing old characters.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:48 AM

Awakening is better in almost every category. The only thing I like more is some of the character designs in Fates.

I despise some of the new skills that they added in Fates, such as "You can't double knights unless they have less than 50% hp" and my personal favorite to hate "Archers can counter attack from any range". The simplification of the weapon triangle into 3 colors is dull and takes away from the game, and shuriken weapon type is overpowered because they lower enemy stats which is also dull and not interesting. I'm still upset magic is all the types of magic grouped together. I miss the days of old where anima beat light, light beat dark, and dark beat anima. When we had 2 weapon triangles to worry about and archers weren't included in the weapon triangle BECAUSE THEY WERE LIMITED TO 2, SOMETIMES 3 RANGE. Also, in Fates, bows are a green weapon with most flying classes using blue or green weapons good game design, give the weapon strong against an entire type of class a weapon advantage or neutral whoo.



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 05:52 AM

dangit I typed up a long response

 

and then somehow friggin' lost what I wrote by going back ughhh

 

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so upset

 

tl;dr Awakening > Fates with and without gameplay for me

 

while Fates fixed some issues with Awakening (pair-up and overly bland maps), it introduced way more stuff in the gameplay that I didn't like. I think they're both kinda bad but at least Awakening was a shallow level of fun and not stupidly frustrating. like every FE game has balance and other issues so to some extent it's fine. but Fates with its dumb weapon triangle (see what Voffie said) and ridiculous amount of skills and arbitrary buffs/debuffs and useless fluff and other crap is just asoidasudiasdaosidu, Awakening was lame but Fates was like please end this misery outside of the occasional highlight where thanks to slightly better map design and such it was actually kinda fun (but like the lows just totally outweighed the high's for me such that I barely even remember any good times :\)


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Posted 25 March 2017 - 09:10 AM

Oh please, don't get me started on the fucking debuffing nonsense. The weapon triangle looks tame to how ridiculous some of the debuffs are. Half HP for the whole fucking map. Why. WHY. Actually why. Shurikens/knives lower way too many stats. Steel ones lower str by 3 and def/res by 4. That's 11 stats. For what? Ability to double -3? Not even SPEED MINUS 3. And shurikens themselves compared to knives are just outright better. They have mostly similar stats (Knives are slightly more accurate, 5% to be precise), but shurikens offer +2 speed for 5% accuracy.



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:00 PM

Oh please, don't get me started on the fucking debuffing nonsense. The weapon triangle looks tame to how ridiculous some of the debuffs are. Half HP for the whole fucking map. Why. WHY. Actually why. Shurikens/knives lower way too many stats. Steel ones lower str by 3 and def/res by 4. That's 11 stats. For what? Ability to double -3? Not even SPEED MINUS 3. And shurikens themselves compared to knives are just outright better. They have mostly similar stats (Knives are slightly more accurate, 5% to be precise), but shurikens offer +2 speed for 5% accuracy.

yeah, the half HP thing seemed kinda ridiculous, but I tried not to think about it too much/accept it for what it is. but the more I think about it... that is indeed kinda absurd. 3/4 mighta been ok (but still kinda powerful), but 1/2 is a bit much, especially for characters that hardly have any HP to start with, lol.

 

the debuffs stacking can be really harsh and lame and just hard to keep up with in a sort of annoying way. there's a limit to how much advance calculation stuff I want to do, which is why I don't like bloating a game with too many skills, buffs, debuffs, etc., I prefer games that keep things relatively simple but explore the possibilities of that to the max, i.e. depth in simplicity and natural combinations (kinda like BotW, actually) rather than depth in just pure quantity of things and such, if that makes sense


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