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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho
@  Elwood : (27 September 2019 - 05:52 AM) I still come here everyday because this is still my homepage in Firefox! XD
@  Ezra : (25 September 2019 - 03:07 PM) I also miss the days the forums I used were more active :(
@  Fire Blazer : (15 September 2019 - 05:39 AM) I do kinda miss the days these forums were active :(
@  Ezra : (29 August 2019 - 04:14 PM) *BOX!!!*
@  kirant : (19 August 2019 - 12:49 PM) Huh. Bothammer time.

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#1 PedroLight

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 05:19 PM

Well, i want to make a hack ROM for FE 8, but i dunno where to start or what to do.

Any idea? I'll try to make it using nightmare. 



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Posted 10 July 2016 - 08:44 PM

With just nightmare you'll be fairly limited. If you want to get started I would highly suggest looking at the "ultimate tutorial"(Google FE ultimate tutorial) that our good admin blazer wrote up.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 08:53 PM

What zac said, also, I'd suggest practicing on FE7, because it's simpler and has a lot more resources.



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Posted 10 July 2016 - 10:38 PM

Yeah, if you've got limited interest in coding, I'd suggest sticking to a small scale product.  Nightmare's limitations are unit placement and the like.

 

I'd suggest trying something like a self-insert or a rebalance to get used to the program first.  Rebalances and unit change mods help out quite a bit in learning how Nightmare works and lets you understand the FE system a bit better (as this will let you gain some intuitive understanding of the key statistics in the game).  A first trail might be to do something like create a new series of weapons (ex - a series of Pike weapon (Iron, Steel, Silver Pike) for the Spear weapons which have improved mounted damage.  Then play a bit to see if what you did fits into the base FE game.


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Posted 11 July 2016 - 11:30 AM

I like making magic weapons and making legendary weapons unbreakable. Editing shops to get some of the unused or almost-unused weapons is a fun thing to do as well.


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Posted 18 July 2016 - 06:43 PM

I like making magic weapons and making legendary weapons unbreakable. Editing shops to get some of the unused or almost-unused weapons is a fun thing to do as well.

 

I like actually being able to use legendary weapons too, but unbreakable might be a wee bit OP, hahaha

 

magic weapons are pretty rad tho and were a classic like "oh man that's cool!" kinda thing early on in hacking

 

 

With just nightmare you'll be fairly limited. If you want to get started I would highly suggest looking at the "ultimate tutorial"(Google FE ultimate tutorial) that our good admin blazer wrote up.

 

warning: it's outdated, and mostly applies to FE7, cuz FE7 is easier and what most people hack and the only game I am (or was) super familiar with. some of it applies to FE6/FE8, sure, but you'll be figuring out a lot of things on your own if you choose to hack either of those games...


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Posted 23 July 2016 - 12:06 PM

I like actually being able to use legendary weapons too, but unbreakable might be a wee bit OP, hahaha

Probably, but I don't really care, tbh. By the time you get all the legendary weapons, anyway, it's the next-to-final-chapter and after that is Creature Campaign, and I could care less about being OP in creature campaign. :P It's not like there's a ton of legendary weapons that everyone can use, anyway. Sieglinde and Siegmund are Eirika and Ephraim exclusive, and there's only one of each of the other types of weapons.

 

That being said, I do reduce the Might of said weapons in an attempt to compensate.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 03:00 AM

Yea, I would start with FE7. I have a little experience in hacking and when I started I was told the same thing. Something about there not being enough resources prepared for FE8.

I like actually being able to use legendary weapons too, but unbreakable might be a wee bit OP

 
I'd agree; it is characteristic of the fire emblem series to have both their characters and weapons presented in a finite way. They wear down and if they die or break, that's it. Kind of makes them more precious. You could always create a duplicate item marker for the legendary weapon and make that one unbreakable for the creature campaign.
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Posted 24 July 2016 - 11:02 AM

Yea, I would start with FE7. I have a little experience in hacking and when I started I was told the same thing. Something about there not being enough resources prepared for FE8.

 
I'd agree; it is characteristic of the fire emblem series to have both their characters and weapons presented in a finite way. They wear down and if they die or break, that's it. Kind of makes them more precious. You could always create a duplicate item marker for the legendary weapon and make that one unbreakable for the creature campaign.

My logic for unbreakable legendary weapons is that they're legendary. Any normal weapon would have rusted out YEEEEEEEEEARS ago, whether it was used or not.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 11:10 AM

My logic for unbreakable legendary weapons is that they're legendary. Any normal weapon would have rusted out YEEEEEEEEEARS ago, whether it was used or not.

Actually, there are fairly old antiques of weapons and armors from fairly far back that are in excellent condition because of their storage, maintenance(sometimes) and lack of use. The ones that look utterly destroyed from rust tend to be because they were found in particularly terrible conditions, like iron in the river.

 

But yeah I consider breakable legendaries pretty stupid too. Especially since their uses usually aren't actually that high either when they can be broken.


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Posted 13 August 2016 - 04:39 PM

My logic for unbreakable legendary weapons is that they're legendary. Any normal weapon would have rusted out YEEEEEEEEEARS ago, whether it was used or not.

 

Actually, there are fairly old antiques of weapons and armors from fairly far back that are in excellent condition because of their storage, maintenance(sometimes) and lack of use. The ones that look utterly destroyed from rust tend to be because they were found in particularly terrible conditions, like iron in the river.

 

But yeah I consider breakable legendaries pretty stupid too. Especially since their uses usually aren't actually that high either when they can be broken.

 

you both make good points, haha. I think a fair solution is for them to just have a lot of uses, but having played RD I don't really mind some being unbreakable too. Just need to consider game balance and such.


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Posted 19 August 2016 - 11:11 AM



 

Just need to consider game balance and such.

Which is why I reduce their might. May also mess with accuracy, weight or whatever, but mostly I just reduce their might. Although, post-game in FE8, might doesn't matter cuz you're hitting EVERYTHING super-effectively, anyway.


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Posted 20 August 2016 - 06:31 PM

Yeah I would make sense if they made legendary weapons unlimited but they have to be use by certain characters. The main ones. Like they did in FE7 that would be a smart idea

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Posted 20 August 2016 - 06:50 PM

Yeah I would make sense if they made legendary weapons unlimited but they have to be use by certain characters. The main ones. Like they did in FE7 that would be a smart idea

FE7 had this horrible problem where using anything but iron weapons was a severe risk. I never actually USED the S-rank weapons in FE7 due to potential deaths. <_<


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 02:54 PM

True. Some critical were ridiculously. Vaida with her Godly spear was also annoying.

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 04:02 PM



True. Some critical were ridiculously. Vaida with her Godly spear was also annoying.

 


True, but it's not liked the game ever told you to attack Vaida.  She was happy sitting on her corner all alone.

 

Plus, glitching the game meant YOU could have it all for yourself.


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Posted 24 August 2016 - 03:53 AM

 

True, but it's not liked the game ever told you to attack Vaida.  She was happy sitting on her corner all alone.

 

Plus, glitching the game meant YOU could have it all for yourself.

 

yeah stupid uber spear is op, i might have gotten it for myself once but i'm not an LTCer or anything so i generally don't like to do such things, they're kinda cheap to say the least =P


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Posted 25 August 2016 - 11:12 AM

 

yeah stupid uber spear is op, i might have gotten it for myself once but i'm not an LTCer or anything so i generally don't like to do such things, they're kinda cheap to say the least =P

what is LTCer? Never saw that acronym before.

 

I never got said spear... Is there some sort of mine glitch that makes you able to do it?


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Posted 25 August 2016 - 08:23 PM

what is LTCer? Never saw that acronym before.

 

I never got said spear... Is there some sort of mine glitch that makes you able to do it?

It refers to the people who emphasize a low turn count for each playthrough to prove their strategic superiority.

 

Yes, you get it through the mine glitch, which is basically the same thing as the enemy control glitch in FE8 only you trigger it differently. (I found the latter more useful back when I was playing FE8 on my GBASP because there's no other way you're getting Myrrh to not run out of Dragonstone uses and thus becoming totally useless just leveling up.)


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Posted 25 August 2016 - 09:15 PM

It refers to the people who emphasize a low turn count for each playthrough to prove their strategic superiority.

 

Oh...

 

.... I never understood those people, and how they do it. I'm one of those who takes my time. <<;


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