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@  xcrash1998 : (30 November 2019 - 11:07 PM) New fictional holiday "Index Day"
@  Fire Blazer : (28 November 2019 - 08:52 PM) yeah just guest bots and stuff I think :( we really were active once upon a time though...
@  kirant : (26 November 2019 - 03:48 PM) No invasion. I imagine a lot of guest bots visiting for indexing purposes.
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:15 PM) How is most people online at 959 for the 8th of October of this year? Is that right? Did I miss something or was there somekind of spambot invasion?
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:06 PM) I know what you mean, it gets awkard to post something unrelated to the current conversation, and even if somebody picks up on it, it would just become a huge mess in the c hatbox if a multitude of groups talk about different topics.
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho

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Leafy Rants About FEF: Revelation


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#1 Blue Leafeon

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 01:22 AM

I wanted to play through the game again (since I only recently gained the power to do some cool stuff with powersaves, like MAKE MYSELF A FEMALE GRANDMASTER YESZ. Also because I wanted the Revelation final boss themes in my sound test and this is the only way to get them.) While I started a Hoshido file, I feel like I'm getting cheated out of units in it. So I figured, why not actually make Revelation enjoyable to me by writing a play journal about every fallacy ever in the story telling?

 

Disclaimer: Some of my comments may be opinionistic, biased or otherwise very debatable. This is mostly for show. I will admit that I actually do not have problems with everything I rant about. I'm just doing this for completionism. No stone left unturned or whatever.

 

Also because of wrist injury, progress in this might be slow. Typing hurts and one-handed typing sucks.

Chapter 6. WALL OF TEXT ALERT.

 

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I have two more chapters written up but I think I'll stop here. This was pretty long for the internet.


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#2 Mercurius

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 05:35 AM

I'm sorry, it's hard for me to focus when your character sounds like she has a pet nickname.

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 10:46 AM

I'm sorry, it's hard for me to focus when your character sounds like she has a pet nickname.

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Pfft okay fine, I'll find something else to call her. Just Avatar, then?

 

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 01:03 AM

Chapter 7, whee. Wasn't much to snark/complain about, TBH. It's mostly exposition.

 

Major spoilerz for Birthright/Conquest be here, yo. Or...maybe only minor spoilers. Anyway, be warned.

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More to come in the next chapter, but just wanted to get this done for completionist's sake.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 04:19 AM

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 08:28 PM

^ I was thinking about that phrase the whole time, but figured it would just be too easy to go there. lol

 

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 03:37 AM

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Ugh, quotes are fucking up.


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 12:56 PM

Ugh. The quote feature can be quite glitchy sometimes. :/

 

Not sure how reading between the lines and bad writing correlate. Not when people hate being spoon-fed info and want to analyze all the things anyway.

It depends on the case. There's clever use of making the reader infer, and then there's...that. Which makes it sound like the avatar tried to defeat Anankos  and got her butt kicked. Or something.

 

It's funny because Hoshidans in one of the prologue chapters (I think it was 3?) were pretty okay with just shooing you away if you didn't provoke them.

Yeah, and that was when the avatar was CLEARLY with Nohr.

 

I vaguely remember cases of nobility and royalty declaring certain family members legally dead or something. At least it applies to illegitimate children anyway.

That makes sense, I guess. Doesn't quite seem to be what he's doing here, though...

 

it's funny cause in actual war you don't need to kill the enemy either. There are plenty of prisoners of war and even when there aren't if you can reach your objective and gain the advantage that's often enough for the day.

Yeeeeeeeah. Starvation tactics were usually used in sieges to make the enemy surrender. If you wanted to capture a country, you didn't really want to kill EVERYONE because SOMEBODY needed to be able to till the fields and whatever.

 

The avatar still carried that evil exploding sword of death courtesy of Garon, though they weren't particularly inclined toward criticizing her for that (besides Takumi) near the time it actually happened.

Yeah, true. Hence why I think she must have heard it from Takumi.


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 02:37 PM

I was basically OK with ignoring all the problems the story presented me with. Right up until the avatar jumps off a cliff(yeah I'm not much further than that. I got bored and gave up). I don't want to read through this because spoilers, but is revelations any better about stupid stuff happening? I'm guessing probably not based on the fact that this thread exists, but it's worth asking.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 03:24 PM

I was basically OK with ignoring all the problems the story presented me with. Right up until the avatar jumps off a cliff(yeah I'm not much further than that. I got bored and gave up). I don't want to read through this because spoilers, but is revelations any better about stupid stuff happening? I'm guessing probably not based on the fact that this thread exists, but it's worth asking.

"Stupid" in precisely what form? Give me examples from Birthright/Conquest and I'll give you an answer with as little spoilers as possible.


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Posted 28 July 2016 - 12:11 AM

a seemingly incredibly loyal ninja changing sides on a whim for example, a prince trusting the king's adviser whom he just finished beating the shit out of after finding out that the advisor was sent to kill him, etc.



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Posted 28 July 2016 - 12:58 AM

a seemingly incredibly loyal ninja changing sides on a whim for example, a prince trusting the king's adviser whom he just finished beating the shit out of after finding out that the advisor was sent to kill him, etc.

Ummm...shoot I was hoping you'd mention stupid and pointless deaths because that's a yes or no answer.

 

I'd say it's probably about the same. The amount doesn't change, but if you ask me, the level of stupidity was kicked up on most of 'em.

 

 

On topic:

I actually have not written anything about chapter 10 today because I completely burnt myself out with it last night due to HOW EXTREMELY LONG THE DANG ENDING SCENE IS AAAAUGH. I have all the text down and ready to be dissected, but the sheer length of it all overwhelmed me and I quit. I'll get to work on it tomorrow.

 

Luckily I still have chapter 9 ready.

 

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 03:38 AM

Trial by combat must be all the rage over at the Wind Tribe.

 

I wanted to say something about Rinka, but I actually can't really remember anything at all about her except...maybe...her being one of the prisoners we didn't kill in like the second chapter.


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Posted 30 July 2016 - 10:54 PM

So I pirated the special edition to try Rev (since I hacked my 3ds) and I'm a couple chapters into it. Fucking stupid plot aside this path is just kind of not fun, like at all. Probably gonna uninstall to save my sd card space lol. 


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Posted 31 July 2016 - 01:04 PM

I wanted to say something about Rinka, but I actually can't really remember anything at all about her except...maybe...her being one of the prisoners we didn't kill in like the second chapter.

 

Yeah, she is.

 

 

So I pirated the special edition to try Rev (since I hacked my 3ds) and I'm a couple chapters into it. Fucking stupid plot aside this path is just kind of not fun, like at all. Probably gonna uninstall to save my sd card space lol.

 

Yeeeeah... I mean, when the first three chapters have almost nobody join you (Gunter doesn't count because ANYONE in the know wouldn't use him, anyway.) it's pretty lame. Not to mention the chapters themselves tend to just...not be very fun. The only thing redeemable about chapter 10's gimmick was that every unit hidden under the ice had an item of some kind that they dropped. A good number of them had stat boosters. So...yeah. <<

Decided to just put the beginning of the chapter for now.

 

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Will do the rest later. For now, I have church to go to.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 10:18 PM

Part two.

 

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 05:01 AM

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 11:03 AM

Speculation: It's called the Seal of Flames instead because what they're really trying to do is keep the flame away with all the water imagery this game's got going for it.

Should have been Water Emblem Fates.

 

That just doesn't sound as cool lol. Although it does describe this game's story completely. *smacked*

 

You probably already know this because you're into bows, but "fire!" is supposed to be specific to the use of firearms and thus doesn't make sense to use as a verb for the release of projectiles in a world where they've never heard of even cannons before.

I knew this, but promptly forgot it while writing that because I got distracted with Zola pointing out the "joke."

 

I'd be upset too if the prologue chapters shared between all three games more or less tells you all you need to know about Garon being suspicious as hell even to the royal family. But you know how it is with people in abusive relationships...

I wasn't knocking it, but yeah... The fact that they're so infinitely blind to Garon's evilness is kind of exasperating. You make a good point with abusive relationships, though. Also probably doesn't help that he's the only dad they know... Wait. They mention in supports that he used to be a nice guy. Never mind that last part. >_>

 

Yeah, it was your fault for actually being tempted enough to buy this part of the game. Marketing campaign success!

Okay I actually laughed at that. XD

 

Off topic, but the quote feature seems to start failing after a certain number of quotes in a single post. Which is dumb but probably not something easily fixed from our side.


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