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@  Fire Blazer : (28 November 2019 - 08:52 PM) yeah just guest bots and stuff I think :( we really were active once upon a time though...
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@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:15 PM) How is most people online at 959 for the 8th of October of this year? Is that right? Did I miss something or was there somekind of spambot invasion?
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@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
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@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
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#1 Blue Leafeon

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 12:17 PM

I really don't understand the logic in their weapon balances this time around. Actually, I don't really understand FE's desire to "balance" weapons in the first place. In FE7 the weight system hindered my units SO MUCH that using powerful weapons got them killed.

 

The more powerful weapons in this game really all seem to have these awful setbacks to them that, while it doesn't really matter much in Birthright, seems like it could kill your experience in Conquest.

 

I avoid Silver weapons and just forge iron/steel to be somewhere near the same might. It's something I know I won't be able to do in Conquest without the DLC that gives you unlimited gold, but meh to that -2 skill. I have a bad enough time with the RNG as it is. <_<


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Posted 25 February 2016 - 01:15 PM

I haven't actually used many different weapons yet, but have you tried using one and trading it for a safer one in preparation of the enemy phase? That's what I usually do after I use a steel weapon. (though I haven't bothered to forge anything)


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Posted 25 February 2016 - 05:38 PM

Well cause infinite durability they needed to find a new way to balance using the better weapons. I actually really like the change to infinite durability as the effects on weapons makes more thought go into using a weapon in a normal run, since normally you barely have to think about using different levels of weapons unless you're doing an ltc. The effects definitely need to be worked better since some weapons are just completely outclassed lol. 


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 12:40 AM

I really don't understand the logic in their weapon balances this time around. Actually, I don't really understand FE's desire to "balance" weapons in the first place. In FE7 the weight system hindered my units SO MUCH that using powerful weapons got them killed.

 

The more powerful weapons in this game really all seem to have these awful setbacks to them that, while it doesn't really matter much in Birthright, seems like it could kill your experience in Conquest.

 

I avoid Silver weapons and just forge iron/steel to be somewhere near the same might. It's something I know I won't be able to do in Conquest without the DLC that gives you unlimited gold, but meh to that -2 skill. I have a bad enough time with the RNG as it is. <_<

I don't know if I can say I "get the logic" but I'm slowly starting to get some idea of the niches of weapons and such... but yeah, it's kinda weird. I didn't do much forging because I don't really dig the system and stuff but I imagine that low-level forged weapons are probably better than high-level ones for what you mentioned. I mean, silver weapons and brave weapons are useful especially for initiating attacks but they have various setbacks, and... meh, idk, it's just kind of so complicated now lol

 

and like you said, in Conquest there's not much you can do unless you exploit the DLC >_>'

 

I haven't actually used many different weapons yet, but have you tried using one and trading it for a safer one in preparation of the enemy phase? That's what I usually do after I use a steel weapon. (though I haven't bothered to forge anything)

 

Yeah I noticed that this tactic is way more useful in this game due to the presence of weapons that debuff you and the like after using them once (or weapons that only have special effects on your turn or the like). Going for a "safer" weapon for defense is better and maybe even necessary if you're using weapons like javelins or the kodachi or other stuff that just sets you back notably and puts you at risk for dying. That being said, trading does require a unit to be close, so it's not like you can do it all the time, but eh...


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 09:49 PM

Can't wait until the Money DLC comes out. Right now my Nohr file has been like, 90% of my money goes into skill-buying. The other 10 percent into healing items and staves >> My units are still using whatever default weapons they came with, or whatever I've scrounged up from various sources.

 

Except this time, I bankrupted myself on Master Seals. Whoo. I'm using the Profiteer tactic but that 300 gold isn't much to go on when even the cheapest weapons are 1000.


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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:33 AM

Can't wait until the Money DLC comes out. Right now my Nohr file has been like, 90% of my money goes into skill-buying. The other 10 percent into healing items and staves >> My units are still using whatever default weapons they came with, or whatever I've scrounged up from various sources.

 

Except this time, I bankrupted myself on Master Seals. Whoo. I'm using the Profiteer tactic but that 300 gold isn't much to go on when even the cheapest weapons are 1000.

 

Ouch, that sounds tough. IIRC the money DLC comes out today so have fun with that, haha. I don't even know how skill-buying and all that works as it's not my thing so I mostly spent my money on weapons/staves/healing items and master seals when I needed them, but I still felt a bit of a struggle, haha. Don't even know what the "Profiteer" tactic is but it doesn't sound like a great source of income, all things considered... lol.


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Posted 06 March 2016 - 11:54 PM

 

Ouch, that sounds tough. IIRC the money DLC comes out today so have fun with that, haha. I don't even know how skill-buying and all that works as it's not my thing so I mostly spent my money on weapons/staves/healing items and master seals when I needed them, but I still felt a bit of a struggle, haha. Don't even know what the "Profiteer" tactic is but it doesn't sound like a great source of income, all things considered... lol.

Basically, a BUNCH of people have their castles set up to be easy to seize, and then they have units that are loaded up with cool skills. (Check the top ratings for Battle or Visit points and you'll see 'em) You take them on with no handicaps and you can buy skills off of them. Some of them are hackers or got their skills from hackers, though, so they have aptitude on units that can't have it, etc.


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Posted 07 March 2016 - 12:10 AM

Basically, a BUNCH of people have their castles set up to be easy to seize, and then they have units that are loaded up with cool skills. (Check the top ratings for Battle or Visit points and you'll see 'em) You take them on with no handicaps and you can buy skills off of them. Some of them are hackers or got their skills from hackers, though, so they have aptitude on units that can't have it, etc.

 

Yeah. That's how I've gotten most of my skills lol. I'm not complaining though. I generally just buy the Lv. 15 promoted skills so I don't have to level all the way up. Aptitude doesn't hurt either ;)



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Posted 07 March 2016 - 04:41 AM

Basically, a BUNCH of people have their castles set up to be easy to seize, and then they have units that are loaded up with cool skills. (Check the top ratings for Battle or Visit points and you'll see 'em) You take them on with no handicaps and you can buy skills off of them. Some of them are hackers or got their skills from hackers, though, so they have aptitude on units that can't have it, etc.

 

ahh, I see. welp. solid I guess, haha. I'm not into that kind of thing but I can see the enjoyment in it, I think. tbh, haven't visited a single castle of another person and I'm not sure I will for a long while yet, lol. I'm just all in it for that 1 player, I guess. I did streetpass stuff in FE13 but only in a basic sense, really, because it was in my face and new and exciting and all that, haha.

 

 

 

Yeah. That's how I've gotten most of my skills lol. I'm not complaining though. I generally just buy the Lv. 15 promoted skills so I don't have to level all the way up. Aptitude doesn't hurt either ;)

Oooh, solid. Aptitude increases growths by 10%, right? I feel like that's enough of a boost to offset the RNG enough that it's not frustrating/I'm not resetting for level-ups, haha.


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 12:57 AM

I have yet to memorize the new weapon "triangles"

 
And I say "triangle" because THERE IS MORE THAN THREE WEAPONS IN THIS THING IT'S NOT EVEN A TRIANGLE.


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Posted 25 March 2016 - 03:35 AM

I have yet to memorize the new weapon "triangles"

 
And I say "triangle" because THERE IS MORE THAN THREE WEAPONS IN THIS THING IT'S NOT EVEN A TRIANGLE.

 

ahahahhaa point that I really didn't think about

 

but yeah I've done 3 playthroughs now and I still don't have it memorized myself LOL

 

thankfully the colors and such are things so I get by but eventually I should probably learn them... maybe... then again, I kinda don't want to... OG WT forevah lol


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