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#1 Leo

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 01:58 PM

So there's been a spurt of serious topics here recently, and I figure I'd round it off with the big important one. Religion.

We can start off I guess by getting people to state their own faiths. I'm an atheist, aways was, though a good portion of my extended family are Christian fundamentalists (and more than a little crazy).

Discussion and arguement are welcome, but no flaming or bashing please.
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 03:16 PM

Agnostic. I'm not into the whole "Oh martyr yourself because god told you to" thinking of most religions.
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 04:19 PM

I'm an Atheist. I prayed like....five times a day, but nothing every happened. I thought that if there really was a god out there, he wasn't doing a real good job.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 04:45 PM

I am a Deist, and also apparently a disciple of Raeness, which is something my friend tricked me into becoming.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:02 PM

Deist? I've never heard of it. What do you...worship/do?

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:09 PM

Meh, I don't go to church but I still believe in God.
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (The Dark Sentinel @ April 07, 2009 12:02 pm)
Deist? I've never heard of it. What do you...worship/do?

Basically, its belief that a higher being created the universe, and the higher power in the universe is reason.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:45 PM

That sounds like Christianity...

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:20 PM

"I was a Christian. Then I reached the age of reason." George Carlin.

Was always an atheist, Never baptized, whoot whoot. If there is a god, he did not want to have anything to do with me.
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (The Dark Sentinel @ April 07, 2009 12:45 pm)
That sounds like Christianity...

Our reason is the higher power. There isn't a god going around giving us choices, and we aren't destined to follow it. It gives us a reason as to how the universe was created. Also, there is no afterlife. Its almost exactly like Atheism, except that we believe that some higher being created the universe. Atheists don't know what created the universe, and Agnostics believe...no higher being created the universe.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE (Minonovo @ April 07, 2009 04:45 pm)
I am a Deist, and also apparently a disciple of Raeness, which is something my friend tricked me into becoming.

....There is a story here I want to hear.

^Agnostics don't know what they believe....get off the goddam fence already :p

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:46 PM

Maybe I got Agnostics and Atheists mixed up then. My bad.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:56 PM

I believe Deism is when people believe there is a higher being (namely a God of some sort) who created the world and just stopped right there, not caring for His creation. So basically, in practice it is atheism although it comes in a different form. Am I correct?

Atheism is the lack of belief in God. Agnosticism is when a person is unsure whether there is a God or not, but opens up the possibility that there might be some higher being out there.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 12:07 AM

I'm sorry, but, I've come to a temporary decision.

The last time I had a topic like this there were problems and religion tends to start many, many problems. I'm going to discuss with the rest of the staff how this should be discussed. I'm thinking of making a Mature Discussion section (although I'll probably call it a more interesting name) and place serious threads there.

Sorry for this, look out for an announcement on what we are going to do with serious topics that require maturity, knowledge, etc. to be discussed like these.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 12:12 AM

I classify Deism as a religion of salvation and science combined into one, universal belief. I think the main point is to explain the big bang theory, and I mean the part about the entire universe being compressed into a single point of little or no mass. The question was, what created that point? Deism says the deity (or deities? I don't remember if it's a monotheistic religion or not) created that single point of mass, which then exploded (or imploded, my memory isn't great at the moment :/) to the blah blah blah, most of you probably know the big bang theory.

^ I may be wrong about most or all of that, don't flame me for it please, but I'm 95% sure that's correct...

And also, I'm personally Catholic, but I do...question...my beliefs. That's about as far as I'll go with that.

EDIT: Sorry Blazer, didn't see you posted before me. It's okay if you delete my post.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 12:17 AM

QUOTE (Fire Blazer @ April 08, 2009 01:07 am)
I'm sorry, but, I've come to a temporary decision.

The last time I had a topic like this there were problems and religion tends to start many, many problems. I'm going to discuss with the rest of the staff how this should be discussed. I'm thinking of making a Mature Discussion section (although I'll probably call it a more interesting name) and place serious threads there.

Sorry for this, look out for an announcement on what we are going to do with serious topics that require maturity, knowledge, etc. to be discussed like these.

That's fine. I think you're making the right decision.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 12:27 AM

>_<

I forgot to lock the topic

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Locked.

EDIT: Re-opening and moving to maturity domain.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 06:14 PM

Bump, I re-opened it and it can now be discussed again. Sorry for teh drama xP

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 09:54 PM

xD

I'm not religious at all. And like Leo, I have some fundamentalists in the family too >_>

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 12:30 PM

"Die Religion ist das Opium des Volkes!" Karl Marx
I don't speak german but I'm sure you all know what that means. (Just look at the two words you know)

But I find that a really wise saying, after all it's difficult to shake someone of religion (as are drugs) and people who "awaken" from their religion are often resentful of their religious selves and the religion they were a part of (just like druggies go on about how they never were happy with themselves and are so happy to be "cured")

I know this is heavily anti-religious, I put in "awaken" to upset those of you who are religious, feel honoured;)




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