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@  Fire Blazer : (13 November 2017 - 08:55 PM) lol, perhaps
@  kirant : (13 November 2017 - 07:19 PM) I assume nostalgia hits as soon as we get old enough to "fall out" of things.
@  Rujio : (13 November 2017 - 03:57 PM) aren't we supposed to be too young for nostalgia or something?
@  Fire Blazer : (13 November 2017 - 06:08 AM) yet it feels bad since somewhere in my heart I miss all that
@  Fire Blazer : (13 November 2017 - 06:08 AM) and even if i am i dont find myself talking about video games much like the old days. esp. not serious conversations on forums
@  Fire Blazer : (13 November 2017 - 06:08 AM) :( idk man i'm hardly even into FE anymore
@  xcrash1998 : (12 November 2017 - 09:50 PM) hi
@  Rujio : (12 November 2017 - 05:46 PM) I mean I'm actually around pretty frequently. But we never do anything.
@  Idiot : (12 November 2017 - 04:13 PM) Not since the fire nation attacked...
@  Valke : (12 November 2017 - 10:07 AM) hi hello anyone here
@  Idiot : (11 November 2017 - 07:51 AM) Blegh, even
@  Idiot : (10 November 2017 - 05:11 PM) same
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2017 - 04:54 AM) meh
@  Fire Blazer : (07 November 2017 - 04:52 AM) yeah, seems fine to me
@  kirant : (04 November 2017 - 07:51 PM) To update the Crunchyroll thing: according to their Twitter page, they've fixed their website.
@  Mercurius : (04 November 2017 - 04:43 PM) if for whatever reason anyone else here hasn't been informed yet, Crunchyroll is currently dangerous to visit due to having been hacked.
@  Fire Blazer : (03 November 2017 - 11:41 PM) and maybe if I have extra budget I can hire Kirant to act as the creative producer on a new AW-like game
@  Fire Blazer : (03 November 2017 - 11:40 PM) anyway, seems we're in agreement with the IS thing, lol. FE is what it is now, we gotta live with that and/or move on I guess, haha. this is why I plan to make my own FE-like game one day
@  Fire Blazer : (03 November 2017 - 11:39 PM) oh, good thing I asked. usually when I hear "mobile" I think it's smartphones and such since that's typically what people are referring to.
@  Idiot : (02 November 2017 - 07:06 PM) Aw man you just triggered nostalgia super hardcore with that lunch comment.

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Criticism of content creators: A matter of looking for a common enemy?


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#1 Mercurius

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 04:44 AM

Humans as a whole are likely to look to themselves as good, to see themselves as above the petty, astonished at the kinds of words and expressions that would escape another only to deny that very evidence in their ultimate evaluation of humanity and its evolution over the savages of times past who might as well not count as actual people for their misdeeds. The very word "humane" exists in description of a forgiving and compassionate attitude, our standards for what would constitute decency so great only for our collective greatness taken for granted.*

 

Except then you can bring anything regarded as bad writing and relatively well-known and the common man will work to pave all roads going straight down to hell in a fortnight several times over.

 

Justin Bieber, Michael Bay, Stephanie Meyer, Kawahara Reki, it's not as though I personally like any of these people either. (Well, honestly, I know close to nothing about Justin Bieber besides him being generally shit on.) However, I've said before that it's like people are looking for an excuse to hate for it's own sake when they go on to focus so much on these particular individuals, and now I'm thinking, is that the real reason why in such circumstances, it becomes so easy for people to get on a high horse when feeling like being an unabashed slanderer?

 

People know who those are, people can find what they've made as well as several news articles on them and a significant community to fall back on, and are without need to generalize those persons as a group. They can turn hatred to unified discussion and cultivate its reasoning, and at the end of the day, walk away and tell themselves they're some of the nicest people they've ever met. It is good and socially acceptable to look to another's work and take it as evidence for speaking against the creator's character, a cultured, virtuous, and mature activity for one to have themselves partake. However if they were to say the same towards an unknown or the everyday person of the streets publicly, they would have no chance to retain their integrity, either in the eyes of others or for those who are of any self-awareness, the eyes of the self.

 

That it would be easier to excuse is clearly evident, but then comes the question, why is it so interesting for people to band together in hatred? I speak as a hater, I know what hate is like, on the receiving end and on the assault. I know that it is less a decision and more of an impulse in contrast to what many would suggest to give themselves the opportunity to look down on the likes of me. I know that it isn't really an enjoyable thing to be feeling, and without evident results to come alongside it, it makes me look to myself even worse. The hate people will have for these kinds of people are unlikely to have serious effect on them unless they are the kind of people who would commit suicide after receiving one too many death threats or something of the like.

 

There is only one reason that really comes to mind for the reason why so many would revel in camaraderie born of malice, and that is what I was once told by another who spoke well of the community they were among, only for how it was too busy directing most of its hatred towards the game company to hate on each other. That also got me thinking about the communities out there that talk a lot of shit towards another community...they may take jabs and jokes at each other's expense as many would disregarding the insults as mere friendly banter, but if they want to get serious on feeding the ego, it's best to go all out on someone that won't bother talking back.

 

*Some time ago I was in discussion with someone who was, as relevant to the topic at hand, going out of their way to debase a protagonist and its author of something they never bothered to even read. This same person will look to someone(the protagonist they're talking shit about) that will willingly endanger themselves into going further into an extremely life-endangering situation for people that very clearly tried to screw them over, and disregard this act of heroics as being anything just any good friend out there ought to do, even though they themselves go about sneering about in contempt for those they find beneath them. That we mutually find each other a laughable existence is no coincidence.


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 11:21 AM

There is only one reason that really comes to mind for the reason why so many would revel in camaraderie born of malice, and that is what I was once told by another who spoke well of the community they were among, only for how it was too busy directing most of its hatred towards the game company to hate on each other.

This is a good point. However, I think one reason why this kind of thing might happen is because people generally like it when they find others with the same opinion.

 

I say this as somebody who really enjoys complaining about video game mechanics that frustrate her, to the point that my friends actually get quite sick of it. Pokemon is one of the biggest offenders these days, due to how far they've deviated from the Pokemon of my childhood, and also for its various other annoyances that I won't go into. If I complain about my frustrations to my friends who like the game, they end up annoyed at me. However, if I happen to find someone who shares my same frustrations, we can vent about the mechanics together and, in a sense, make the game slightly more bearable in the process. That being said, I have not actually found anyone who shares my same dislikes for how recent games handle themselves...

 

This is probably slightly off topic, since you're speaking mostly of people who hate on something for basically no reason at all, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in anyway.


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 04:03 PM

Well it's not just that they do it for no reason, but also that it's most focused when it's on a particular real person. There's this idea of criticism of an author's character being seen as a great thing to be doing with your life and those idiots who go about not bothering to think about such things are practically an embarrassment to humanity- even though doing the same thing to people that aren't quite so big name is conversely commonly seen as worthy of belittlement.

 

I mean, I complain about game mechanics, we complain about franchises we're supposed to be supporting (Fates didn't do so well all around...) but rarely do any of us bother to call out the actual creators on their decisions, especially when it has to do with morals or perceptions of reality. (Though we might say fuck you to the marketers for attracting an unwanted audience.)


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