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please make an animation or battle sheet
#1
Posted 29 June 2011 - 01:55 AM
link:
http://photobucket.c...iwood-mysprites
this will update so keep checking it.
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#2
Posted 29 June 2011 - 11:47 PM
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You don't need to script animations for these. All you need to do is palette edits :/
Your little "effects" isn't gonna impress anyone.
#3
Posted 30 June 2011 - 02:37 AM
QUOTE (shadowofchaos @ Jun 29 2011, 06:47 PM) |
The Black Knight is a frigging General with a Sword. IIRC there's already a caped version that was on FEU. ... You don't need to script animations for these. All you need to do is palette edits :/ Your little "effects" isn't gonna impress anyone. |
wrong black knight.
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#4
Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:55 AM
Applies for both your Zephiel and General Edits.
#5
Posted 30 June 2011 - 05:26 PM
QUOTE (shadowofchaos @ Jun 30 2011, 03:55 AM) |
Again, all you need to do are palette edits. Applies for both your Zephiel and General Edits. |
what the heck is a palette edits!?!
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#6
Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:01 PM
#7
Posted 30 June 2011 - 10:43 PM
I won't remove this until I get a killtacular in Halo MLG- Started December 29, 2010.
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Bloodfalcon is as crazy over copyright as youtube is lol. |
#8
Posted 30 June 2011 - 11:00 PM
Go join FEE, that site is waay more better.
#9
Posted 30 June 2011 - 11:57 PM
Banning him does no good, when he has done no wrong. He never lied about this being his work, he just said that the link was to the site of his finished products, case in point, recolors.
In more defense, most of the work that Eliwood has done has been requested by none other than myself, so if you plan on banning him, then it would do you no good to leave me here either.
#10
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:04 AM
QUOTE (Richter @ Jun 30 2011, 03:57 PM) |
i do not believe that Eliwood ever said that these were his own personal creations. I do believe I heared him say, on another thread, that he said something about his work being nothing more than recolor. |
First, did he ask the creators of any work IF he could recolor them? Considering that Nintend-fan has been offline for two or three years, I highly doubt that.
Second,
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please make my sprites into a battle sheets or animations please make the better black knight, soren, fire sword myrmidon |
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make my sprites into a battle sheets |
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my sprites |
#11
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:31 AM
Case and point, What everyone is doing here is using something already made, Fire emblem games, and using that basis to create THEIR OWN WORK. If you wish to complain about recoloring something that someone already stole from the FE company, then you are a hypocrite, as you use their game, their hexadecimal codes, even if you change them, much like recoloring if you ask me. You use their characters, their weapons. The list goes on and on.
To end, No, I do not think Eliwood is in the wrong for recoloring something. Again, he never claimed it was his own work, just his finished sprites.
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my sprites |
Simply refers to the sprites he has worked on, weather recolor or actually his own work.
#12
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:41 AM
By banning him, he will not be spreading his thievery to this forum, and making it look bad. Please don't try to talk about something you have very little experience in.
I won't remove this until I get a killtacular in Halo MLG- Started December 29, 2010.
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Bloodfalcon22-pokemanzz cnt dye FELover3- If I beat the shit out of them they do |
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Rujio -- Cows are more important than anything. Rujio -- ANYTHING |
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Blood Falcon -- Hey bblues, are you able to ban the GoogleBot? bblues -- I don't think so. Blood Falcon -- Damn, lol. bblues -- He's above the law : P |
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Bloodfalcon is as crazy over copyright as youtube is lol. |
#13
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:45 AM
QUOTE (Richter @ Jun 30 2011, 07:31 PM) | ||
Case and point, What everyone is doing here is using something already made, Fire emblem games, and using that basis to create THEIR OWN WORK. If you wish to complain about recoloring something that someone already stole from the FE company, then you are a hypocrite, as you use their game, their hexadecimal codes, even if you change them, much like recoloring if you ask me. You use their characters, their weapons. The list goes on and on. To end, No, I do not think Eliwood is in the wrong for recoloring something. Again, he never claimed it was his own work, just his finished sprites.
Simply refers to the sprites he has worked on, weather recolor or actually his own work. |
You're right, we are using something already made, but what we make are all fan based from their original respective games. Even if we created something from scratch someone would relate it to some character in some way. The thing that makes this different is hes took a fan made sprite and recolored it and called it his own. Recoloring something does not make it your own, even if it wasn't the others to begin with.
Not everyone may respect the copyrights, but one thing we do respect is something that is fan made, and if we use it we give credit where credit is due. We may not always give credit on our spliced mugs but anyone who's played Fire Emblem knows the owner so we do not give out the credit due to a mutual known fact of credit.
#14
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:46 AM
Now to your 'it's just a recolor' argument. Let's say I took one of Lumi's or Nayr's sprites and then recolored them. Are they 'mine' no? Hell no. Anyone would be pissed if you called it yours when it was just their sprite (battle or otherwise) when it was just recolored. Sometimes, battle sprites take A LOT more work than a splice.
Now your 'my work' thing. Frankly that is not the basis for an argument. You can't tell what he meant and at this point no one can. But when I hear someone calling it 'their work' I think, 'oh, that kid must have made it', not 'oh he must have recolored it.' And if he did mean he just recolored it, he could have stated that.
I do agree that a ban might be a bit over the top (okay probably a lot over the top) but that doesn't mean he didn't steal. I don't know what you should do, but SOMETHING is in order.
Edit: lol, got beaten to the point by 2 people in like 5 minutes.
#15
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:51 AM
I am not unintelligent, And I never stated I did know a lot about splicing, hacking, or any of the works. However, I am well learned in the matters of Law.
If he claimed them to be his own work in the shout box, I didn't see it, thus I cannot be blamed if my view is skewed in a different direction than the rest of you, as I do not have all the information you all have. However, My defense still rests that stealing stolen work is no worse than the stealing of the first. Yes, banning him may be agreeable by the rules, however, would banning him do any better for your already tarnished reputation?
Now, all of this said, I do not intend on turning in this site, as I would be thus turning myself in for the same nature as I accuse you ALL of. I know that it is legally wrong, but I see nothing wrong with the creation of fan games.
#16
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:53 AM
There's a difference between Mug splices from actual FE games, and stealing other people's work. IIRC, Blazer told me that.
#17
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:57 AM
QUOTE (Richter @ Jun 30 2011, 04:31 PM) |
Generally speaking, if you make a sandwich, you refer to it as YOUR sandwich. Yet, did you make the bread? Did you grow the lettace, tomatos, (Not entirely sure what greens everyone likes on their sandwiches). Did you shoot the turkey that yeilds the meat? Did you milk the cow that you turned the milk to cheese with?. |
Oh, we're using unrelated analogies to prove points. Mmk, lets see...
Alright, so say a friend wants to borrow some money, but you were low on cash for any given reason and couldn't say no. Seeing your one dollar bill, you send it through your scanner. You get that alert on your screen and notice that your scanned bill comes up in black and white, so you recolor it green to look more like the bill. Then, you print them out, flip them over, and repeat with the back of the bill. The end product becomes almost indistinguishable from a legitimate one dollar bill. Was the bill of your creation? No, that was done by the country's mint. But you did make a copy of a bill made by said mint, and color it, and you pass these perfect copies of the bill along to your friend.
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Case and point, What everyone is doing here is using something already made, Fire emblem games, and using that basis to create THEIR OWN WORK. |
A couple things to note here.
First, that wasn't HIS OWN WORK, as you so delicately put it. It was a sprite that someone else had created, and your pal is indirectly taking credit for by neither confirming nor denying that it was his. Oh, and to answer your next question, on the internet silence means "yes". And once again, even if he did say it wasn't his, did he still get permission from the creator? No, he did not.
Second, yes, those sprites did have to come from somewhere. Yes, they were made by Intelligent Systems. However, most of us don't take sprites directly from the game itself. What we do is go to one of several sprite database websites (SDB and The Spriter's Resource, for instance) to get rips of those spritesheets, where their owner is the one who made the file all of the sprites are compiled on. Generally, ripped sprite sheets are considered open source, meaning anyone can take and modify them to hell and back as they so desire. Why do that? Because, as BwdYeti puts it:
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THere would be nothing to work from, no basis for the style without rips |
Even so, if you were to use the unmodified sprites in, say, a flash animation, the owner of the file would still require some sort of acknowledgement.
What splicers do with those open source materials becomes their work. The creations that they put time and effort into making. Your pal here disregarded Nintend-fan's effort (as simple of a splice that is, it still took him firing up Paint/Photoshop/whatever he used back in '06) and is taking it as his own. Again, silence means "yes" online.
#18
Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:59 AM
QUOTE (Richter @ Jun 30 2011, 05:51 PM) |
Now, all of this said, I do not intend on turning in this site, as I would be thus turning myself in for the same nature as I accuse you ALL of. I know that it is legally wrong, but I see nothing wrong with the creation of fan games. |
I'm pretty sure IS won't give a crap about this forum :/
Nintendo and big companies care if you're infringing their PROFITS. Things like hacking ROMs, sure they have the POWER to shut you down, but they don't give a crap since, UNLESS you're project is similar to theirs that they're going to make money off (See "Chrono Resurrection") they're not gonna be sending any cease and desist letters any time soon :/
#19
Posted 01 July 2011 - 01:06 AM
Lol, what? If we didn't ban him that would ruin the reputation. Why would HIM stealing ruin our reputation? Am I reading this correctly?
Edit: I dunno what happened but my quote doesn't work... I fail... that was said by richter
#20
Posted 01 July 2011 - 01:10 AM
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did he still get permission from the creator? No, he did not. |
And you know this how? Have you talked to the original creator? Not only that, but based on logic viewed in the shoutbox
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is it still illegal if the copywrite is gone? |
The ending of said company(to lazy to go look up the name you gave), this gives Eliwood just cause to claim it as his own, no?
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I'm pretty sure IS won't give a crap about this forum :/ Nintendo and big companies care if you're infringing their PROFITS. Things like hacking ROMs, sure they have the POWER to shut you down, but they don't give a crap since, UNLESS you're project is similar to theirs that they're going to make money off (See "Chrono Resurrection") they're not gonna be sending any cease and desist letters any time soon :/ |
Probably not, yet the fact still remains that they could decide to take offense to one of the hacks and attack. They would gain publicity, showing that they don't mess around, and possibly glean a few thousand off of your stuff, computers, cash, the like.
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Lol, what? If we didn't ban him that would ruin the reputation. Why would HIM stealing ruin our reputation? Am I reading this correctly? |
I think the answer given by someone who sided against me works better to stop you.
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I do agree that a ban might be a bit over the top (okay probably a lot over the top) |
Yes, Sea Lion did say more, however, this is the part of that sentence that best argues you.
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