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@  Mage Girl : (17 February 2020 - 02:33 AM) I can safely say I'm so far the only person to post to this shoutbox in 2020...
@  Fire Blazer : (24 December 2019 - 03:17 AM) naw, it's when the bots make collaborated efforts to crawl places, lol
@  kirant : (23 December 2019 - 05:20 AM) What do we do on Index Day? Give each other bots?
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@  Fire Blazer : (28 November 2019 - 08:52 PM) yeah just guest bots and stuff I think :( we really were active once upon a time though...
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@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:15 PM) How is most people online at 959 for the 8th of October of this year? Is that right? Did I miss something or was there somekind of spambot invasion?
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:06 PM) I know what you mean, it gets awkard to post something unrelated to the current conversation, and even if somebody picks up on it, it would just become a huge mess in the c hatbox if a multitude of groups talk about different topics.
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.

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#1 Fire Blazer

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 03:36 PM

Admitted, in real life, that he didn't buy the latest Fire Emblem game (though not a bad thing IMO, Fates is hardly a game you should feel bad for missing out on) because they took out the face-petting feature

 

He basically said stuff about how (paraphrasing my impression, not stating word-for-word) it was one of the core new features and they just gutted it and it really annoyed him or whatever, though he also mentioned once that the localization changes were a thing too (but it didn't seem to bother him even half as much as the face-petting feature removal did), and that it's not really the point of the game, so between that and the way he sort of hesitatingly admitted it, he seems to at least somewhat realize that he comes off as silly

 

I just found it interesting to associate the online dudes that piss me off with their stuff with an actual face... I mean, he wasn't a terrible guy or anything from the offset, and if I never knew he liked face-petting we could probably even be friends (not that I had any reason to be, just saying), but it's just like, right, these are real people on the internet and the faces behind those people who get pissed off and rampage when something gets censored are faces such as these.

 

He was kinda nerdy-looking and awkward so in that sense it was about what I was expecting, but eh.

 

So... just felt like sharing that as it was a slightly interesting encounter. Any thoughts/commentary? Anyone been through similar experiences? If so, share!


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Posted 17 December 2016 - 03:40 PM

Actually one of my best friends would have loved for the face petting to be in the NA release. I'm purposefully not telling her that it was a thing at all tbh. She's borderline obsessed with xander, so being able to pet him would have been the icing on the cake. But yeah, not letting her find out about that because I don't need to know what her reaction would be =P

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 07:06 PM

If you ask me, the fact that the face petting was removed in favor of almost entirely non-interactive treehouse invitations is far worse than if it had been kept in.

 

I'm totally not just salty over not getting to pet Kanna all day or anything


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Posted 17 December 2016 - 10:32 PM

Admitted, in real life, that he didn't buy the latest Fire Emblem game (though not a bad thing IMO, Fates is hardly a game you should feel bad for missing out on) because they took out the face-petting feature

This is a reasonably common sentiment I find.  People have been looking at the NA version and got all salty over a bunch of choices.  Another one seems to be massive reworking of some supports (going by online discussions, it seems like a conversation between Saizo/Beruka was basically gutted, a massive amount of Soleil's conversations were altered, altering Kanna's support tree...and those were just the consensus hatreds).  This is probably why Treehouse got a massive mount of flak after the release.

 

(Bear in mind, I have not nor have plans to play Fates)

 

There are entire groups out there upset that this whole thing is a form of "censorship".  That the companies know better than we do.  And, while it seems kind of silly to me to remove something as asinine as petting in Waifu Wars (oh god, I love that Honest Game Trailer), I don't think the term is correct. 

 

I certainly disagree with the conclusion that it's a key part of the game.  It's key in the same way petting your Pokemon is key.  It's a fun distraction and side game, but ultimately not key compared to other aspects such as the heavily advertised two-story game.

 

A fascinating side thought is the notion of Japanese honorifics.  You look at the heat Atlas gets for keeping them in the Persona games and how people snark heavily that having them thrown into English conversations makes them sounds awkward as all hell (also, just how they say it can also become a bit of an issue...I would suspect the VAs were given no guide on pronouncing anything...listen to Amanda Winn Lee say Amaterasu and tell me I'm wrong).  But then you hop over to Danganronpa games and they get equal amounts of flak for taking them out and claiming that they were replaced with something which makes sense contextually.

 

But long story short...too many fans to please them all.  Half will get angry if you alter something, the other half will get angry if you try to keep it in place.

 

 

I just found it interesting to associate the online dudes that piss me off with their stuff with an actual face... I mean, he wasn't a terrible guy or anything from the offset, and if I never knew he liked face-petting we could probably even be friends (not that I had any reason to be, just saying), but it's just like, right, these are real people on the internet and the faces behind those people who get pissed off and rampage when something gets censored are faces such as these.

It's actually quite an interesting dissociation.  I mean, we know that every person speaking on the internet technically should be a person (unless their a persona invoked to shill something, but that's another tale).  But we don't see them much more than a 2-D character.  A stereotype that exists such that our brain doesn't need to fully characterize them or grasp their feelings. 

 

The line between what we view as acceptable and what we view as ridiculous is much blurrier than we'd like to imagine.  A terrific example in the USA is your guy's election.  Take a look at 3 people (well, maybe 5 if you're in a large city).  Heck, take a look at 5 friends.  One of them probably voted for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.  Or would have if they were interested in voting.  Yet you probably tie the side you don't agree with to some extremely ugly thoughts.  If you favoured Clinton, you probably see Trump supporters as rednecks or racists.  If you favour Trump, you probably see Clinton supporters as tax and spend nutbars who are out of touch with the "reality" of America.  But these people are your friends...you probably know them quite well.  Seeing the discrepancy between what you imagine and what you see is a terrific experience IMO. 


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Posted 18 December 2016 - 01:56 AM

I think less of someone on the internet when I do have a real face to identify them by. Says a lot about me.

 

There was one time where I met someone who claimed to be a twitch streamer, though. I don't have any particular opinions about twitch streamers, but I found it rather interesting how in spite of how he likely talks to an audience all the time, he was absolutely terrible at making eye contact with me and formulating decent responses. I was even trying to talk to him about videogames.


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:15 PM

I think less of someone on the internet when I do have a real face to identify them by. Says a lot about me.

 

There was one time where I met someone who claimed to be a twitch streamer, though. I don't have any particular opinions about twitch streamers, but I found it rather interesting how in spite of how he likely talks to an audience all the time, he was absolutely terrible at making eye contact with me and formulating decent responses. I was even trying to talk to him about videogames.

The funny thing about introverts (and people with aspurger's and the like, such as myself) is that in person, they are incredibly shy, and it takes a while for them to warm up to you. On the internet, however, they can be EXTREMELY outgoing, so much so that you'd never realize how awkward they'd be if they met you IRL.


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