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@  xcrash1998 : (30 November 2019 - 11:07 PM) New fictional holiday "Index Day"
@  Fire Blazer : (28 November 2019 - 08:52 PM) yeah just guest bots and stuff I think :( we really were active once upon a time though...
@  kirant : (26 November 2019 - 03:48 PM) No invasion. I imagine a lot of guest bots visiting for indexing purposes.
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:15 PM) How is most people online at 959 for the 8th of October of this year? Is that right? Did I miss something or was there somekind of spambot invasion?
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:06 PM) I know what you mean, it gets awkard to post something unrelated to the current conversation, and even if somebody picks up on it, it would just become a huge mess in the c hatbox if a multitude of groups talk about different topics.
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.
@  Ezra : (26 October 2019 - 05:49 AM) I think it's because a lot of newer FE players didn't frequent forums growing up. And those that do probably end up on Serenes.
@  Elwood : (25 October 2019 - 07:30 AM) I would love to revitalize this place I'm just not sure how that would be done. I mean with how main stream FE seems to have become I'm honestly surprised we don't have more members.
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 08:04 PM) tfw u not coming here results in not seeing a PM from last month T_T ok gonna try and check at least every couple weeks now even if there's nothing here, lol...
@  Fire Blazer : (21 October 2019 - 07:54 PM) I come here almost never because I've fallen out of habit and basically just accepted the forums are dead :( it's neat you come here every day tho

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#1 raigntk

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 05:11 PM

Ok so i hardly have any idea what i have been doing at all but i think i might be getting the hang of hit. try not to be to harsh about shading (because i've never been a good shader) this is my first try at doing this and i figured i would do a spliced together character first. one problem is his ear. cant seem to recolor it right...

oh and this is fe7 colors only (i do plan on making more updates this is just and early draft i guess? lol) cant wait till i change armor color on him though =p

umm if the image isnt big enough or what not let me know how to change all that (because im not relaly sure)

anyways here he is. his name is Mason (disreguard jaffar over there...hes only there for skin color referencing)

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 05:21 PM

That's, ahm... not bad. The part around his ear there is a bit messy, and there's a green line under him, but that's not the real problem here; the ear is. Replace the orangey bits with a blacker color.

Actually, find a palate without the orangey part and all. It looks off on the chin, eyebrows, side of the face, and ear.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (SmashedFish @ May 12 2011, 12:21 PM)
That's, ahm... not bad. The part around his ear there is a bit messy, and there's a green line under him, but that's not the real problem here; the ear is. Replace the orangey bits with a blacker color.

Actually, find a palate without the orangey part and all. It looks off on the chin, eyebrows, side of the face, and ear.


the green line is to help me with the border dimensions-least i shouldn't be over i think... (will be removed after im done with him)

yeah ear is being a pain.
reason being i used uhai body partial neck and ear, and harkin face and partial neck (why the colors are messed up)
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 06:09 PM

@Line: Ah, okay. I have no further complaints there then.

@Ear: Try, like I said meant, using a darker dark color in your palate.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 06:30 PM

hmm is this any better?

also i havent gotten to the eyes yet but i think i would honestly rather request help with them because i know if i start messing with the color im going to mess it up somewhere along the line...

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 07:52 PM

Yous eem to be simplifying his neck shading to one color, which looks kinda bad. I would keep the neck shaded like it was before. And for teh face, you don't want to just make a circle of a darker skin shade around a lighter skin shade. This is called "pillow shading". Realistically, people's faces aren't brightest in the middle and darkest in the corners. I would reference the face of someone else to get a good idea of how stuff should be shaded.

But anyway, for your first portrait, that is actually pretty good, IMO. I see some potential there. Good luck with your future sprites, yo!

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 07:52 PM

The top hairline along with the neck looks very weird.
And there is a random line on his neck....
I can name all characters you used:
Uhai, Eubanks and Harken
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 08:13 PM

QUOTE (Fitz24 @ May 12 2011, 02:52 PM)
The top hairline along with the neck looks very weird.
And there is a random line on his neck....
I can name all characters you used:
Uhai, Eubanks and Harken



im not trying to give him facial hair persay. more im just trying to make the skin tones look right...and it seems like more i mess with the more it turns out awkward looking...dammit


@blazer it's like i said, i've never been very good at shading but ill try and make it better xD
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 08:47 PM

ok i hope this is a bigger improve ment. messed with the shading more (hope its at least a little better) gave him a little scar above his eye (not hard to tell which one lol) and hopefully shading and what not with chin and ear is better.


edit: messed with his hair a little bit and it looks better imo

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:38 PM

changed the color of the armor.
was considering editing the leather color but decided it would be in my best interest not to...

also am i not allowed to attach files? jw if not its fine. reason being is there is no button for it or anything (unless im just not seeing it)

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:55 PM

Still not bad, but I think the other armor color worked better and the scar is pretty out there. Also, the jawline isn't great, and the neck and face shading both need love (still pillowshaded).

But like Blazer said, it's pretty sweet for a first portrait.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:05 PM

QUOTE (SmashedFish @ May 12 2011, 05:55 PM)
Still not bad, but I think the other armor color worked better and the scar is pretty out there. Also, the jawline isn't great, and the neck and face shading both need love (still pillowshaded).

But like Blazer said, it's pretty sweet for a first portrait.


haha thanks ill try getting to work on that right away...


also dammit i knew i forgot about something.

just reread felover3's basic splicing tut (credit goes to him as to why i was able to do as decent as i did - even though i still am not a good sharder) and i should have known there was an easier mether to coloring -.-

lucky for me i can go back to one of the erlier saves (which will save me a but-load of time "maybe")
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:23 PM

ok hows this change to the chin? ill get to shading later... xD
im still gona use green for his armor color (nobody will be able to change my mind on that =p
lol edit #2: forgot to say that reason im using green is that his hair colr will be changed to more a dark brown so should work nicely with the green clothes
edit 3: shading is improved (if at least a bit) from before i hope. might put that scar back on but idk at this point lol

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 12:54 AM

The chin's better, but still not perfect. The palette is amazingly better. As for the scar, try to rip one from an existing sprite.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:46 AM

QUOTE (SmashedFish @ May 12 2011, 07:54 PM)
The chin's better, but still not perfect. The palette is amazingly better. As for the scar, try to rip one from an existing sprite.



lol ok now i have to ask you just where at do i need to fix the chin cause now im lost xD

also have no idea what you mean by the palete being better xD

and yeah i figured i'd look at other scars and go from there. (i'd rather make my own scar than splice one in)
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:40 AM

The palette is in essence the range of colors you use. A better palette means that you used better colors.

That's the simple idea, anyway, I'm sure some spriter could make it more complex...

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:43 AM

Didn't update the chin because like i said im at a loss now on what to do.
lol im being a pest but this is kinda fun plus i literally have just about all the free time in the world (although that is going to change - but not by much)

anyways decided that making a scar would be annoying even though it looked easy enough to make so i just spliced in a partial scar and here is the turn-out

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 06:24 PM

The head needs more shading

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 07:28 PM

ok after looking at the sprite for a bit i noticed that the whole chin problem may have happened because of the left shoulder...so i changed it a bit (because it got all spliced outa wack when i did the inital splicing) hopefully its better not but who knows till you guys tell me xD

tried to do better shading on the face but im still not sure if its good. it looks good to me but like i've said im not one thats good with shading xD

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 07:51 PM

The face should have a lot more of the lightest skin tone in it, you have kind of random blobs of the lightest but it's almost all the middle color. I only use the middle color for the left side of the face, shading around hair, and the jawline.




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