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@  xcrash1998 : (21 September 2018 - 05:46 PM) I like games that actually reward you for reaching more difficult objectives.
A good example would be the golden ballon in Super Mario Oddisey it more like a trophy and less like an in game side note of what you did.
@  Fire Blazer : (17 September 2018 - 07:13 AM) but like yeah I get more trophies/achievements in games that I just happened to play more bcuz the game itself was fun or w/e and it's like oh ok i also will get these things just through doing the stuff i wanted to do anyway, that's cool i guess lol
@  Fire Blazer : (17 September 2018 - 07:08 AM) like they don't rly hurt but they aren't something of particular value, it's kinda like a fancy alert with a title that tells u u did a thing, it's not bad but im not rly one to go out of my way to obtain the validation of a video game through something that can usually just be done via spending enough time/effort on it

(getting to like the top X% of a competitive multiplayer game or smth would be a diff story, but in that case i wouldn't even want an achievement, i feel like just getting there should feel rewarding in itself, so... yeah, lol)
@  Fire Blazer : (17 September 2018 - 07:07 AM) yeah I'm not a trophy/achievement guy lol
@  acceptance : (13 September 2018 - 10:35 PM) That's just not incentive enough for me, man.
@  acceptance : (13 September 2018 - 10:34 PM) Plus with modern gaming a lot of the time the most you can hope for if you get all the collectibles is a trophy/achievement. Which I suppose is valuable to some people, but it's not gonna add anything to the game whatsoever.
@  Fire Blazer : (12 September 2018 - 05:58 PM) like yeah sidequests with an actual crafted scenario to them, post-game dungeons that aren't TOO much grinding/rehashed content, etc. are cool
@  Fire Blazer : (12 September 2018 - 05:57 PM) yeah I only like completionist stuff if it's like meaningful content/not super grindy but usually at some point it becomes kind of annoying so meh
@  acceptance : (11 September 2018 - 01:01 AM) Gotta love unforgivingly difficult super bosses. (Looking at you, Lingering Will.)
@  acceptance : (11 September 2018 - 01:00 AM) I cannot do the whole collectible thing. It always feel so tedious. Sidequests and EX dungeons are always fun though.
@  xcrash1998 : (09 September 2018 - 06:56 AM) So thats perfect for me
@  xcrash1998 : (09 September 2018 - 06:55 AM) I am rather obsessed with completing on 100% unless it is completely unreasonable to do so
@  Fire Blazer : (03 September 2018 - 04:51 AM) if they ever make a sequel/spiritual successor or the like at the very least it should have my attention, haha
@  Fire Blazer : (03 September 2018 - 04:50 AM) so yeah, great, great game overall, I even bought the expansion and played the heck out of that too because it was so much fun. Think I ended up almost 100%ing it (basically fully explored the map IIRC, not sure I did everything but at the very least I should have gotten pretty close).

and I'm not really a completionist either, so again... just speaks volumes about how fun the game was IMO.
@  Fire Blazer : (03 September 2018 - 04:48 AM) Awesome gameplay, sweet enemies, an overall interesting premise and plot along with some solid writing, even the soundtrack was decent for a Western game, lol... but of course, the VISUALS. whew. the game looks soooo good. couldn't help but take pictures even though I don't usually consider myself that kinda guy, lol. the environments and hyper-realistic look are just so visually appealing I was often kinda mesmerized, similar to how I felt with Xenoblade X.
@  Fire Blazer : (03 September 2018 - 04:46 AM) I'm surprised to have finally found some other people who have played and liked that game though. I was excited for Horizon: Zero Dawn and got it at launch and ended up basically binging it, IIRC even putting P5 on hold for a bit, because it was just so much fun.
@  Fire Blazer : (03 September 2018 - 04:46 AM) ouch @ potential april fools lol
@  Rujio : (02 September 2018 - 09:34 AM) Still an excellent game. One of the more interesting stories I've come across in a game, especially an open-world one, and some pretty solid characters and worldbuilding. The gameplay is fun and works really, really well in the setting, too.
@  Rujio : (02 September 2018 - 09:31 AM) Although that article is from April 1st and my google searches are not revealing any other evidence of a PC release...
@  Rujio : (02 September 2018 - 09:29 AM) Ah yes! I just played that game this past summer with my friends (who have a PS4) and it really was great! I'm really glad it's coming to PC so I can have it myself, and also because I've got some PS-less friends who would really enjoy it.

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 03:36 PM

Admitted, in real life, that he didn't buy the latest Fire Emblem game (though not a bad thing IMO, Fates is hardly a game you should feel bad for missing out on) because they took out the face-petting feature

 

He basically said stuff about how (paraphrasing my impression, not stating word-for-word) it was one of the core new features and they just gutted it and it really annoyed him or whatever, though he also mentioned once that the localization changes were a thing too (but it didn't seem to bother him even half as much as the face-petting feature removal did), and that it's not really the point of the game, so between that and the way he sort of hesitatingly admitted it, he seems to at least somewhat realize that he comes off as silly

 

I just found it interesting to associate the online dudes that piss me off with their stuff with an actual face... I mean, he wasn't a terrible guy or anything from the offset, and if I never knew he liked face-petting we could probably even be friends (not that I had any reason to be, just saying), but it's just like, right, these are real people on the internet and the faces behind those people who get pissed off and rampage when something gets censored are faces such as these.

 

He was kinda nerdy-looking and awkward so in that sense it was about what I was expecting, but eh.

 

So... just felt like sharing that as it was a slightly interesting encounter. Any thoughts/commentary? Anyone been through similar experiences? If so, share!


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Posted 17 December 2016 - 03:40 PM

Actually one of my best friends would have loved for the face petting to be in the NA release. I'm purposefully not telling her that it was a thing at all tbh. She's borderline obsessed with xander, so being able to pet him would have been the icing on the cake. But yeah, not letting her find out about that because I don't need to know what her reaction would be =P

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 07:06 PM

If you ask me, the fact that the face petting was removed in favor of almost entirely non-interactive treehouse invitations is far worse than if it had been kept in.

 

I'm totally not just salty over not getting to pet Kanna all day or anything


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Posted 17 December 2016 - 10:32 PM

Admitted, in real life, that he didn't buy the latest Fire Emblem game (though not a bad thing IMO, Fates is hardly a game you should feel bad for missing out on) because they took out the face-petting feature

This is a reasonably common sentiment I find.  People have been looking at the NA version and got all salty over a bunch of choices.  Another one seems to be massive reworking of some supports (going by online discussions, it seems like a conversation between Saizo/Beruka was basically gutted, a massive amount of Soleil's conversations were altered, altering Kanna's support tree...and those were just the consensus hatreds).  This is probably why Treehouse got a massive mount of flak after the release.

 

(Bear in mind, I have not nor have plans to play Fates)

 

There are entire groups out there upset that this whole thing is a form of "censorship".  That the companies know better than we do.  And, while it seems kind of silly to me to remove something as asinine as petting in Waifu Wars (oh god, I love that Honest Game Trailer), I don't think the term is correct. 

 

I certainly disagree with the conclusion that it's a key part of the game.  It's key in the same way petting your Pokemon is key.  It's a fun distraction and side game, but ultimately not key compared to other aspects such as the heavily advertised two-story game.

 

A fascinating side thought is the notion of Japanese honorifics.  You look at the heat Atlas gets for keeping them in the Persona games and how people snark heavily that having them thrown into English conversations makes them sounds awkward as all hell (also, just how they say it can also become a bit of an issue...I would suspect the VAs were given no guide on pronouncing anything...listen to Amanda Winn Lee say Amaterasu and tell me I'm wrong).  But then you hop over to Danganronpa games and they get equal amounts of flak for taking them out and claiming that they were replaced with something which makes sense contextually.

 

But long story short...too many fans to please them all.  Half will get angry if you alter something, the other half will get angry if you try to keep it in place.

 

 

I just found it interesting to associate the online dudes that piss me off with their stuff with an actual face... I mean, he wasn't a terrible guy or anything from the offset, and if I never knew he liked face-petting we could probably even be friends (not that I had any reason to be, just saying), but it's just like, right, these are real people on the internet and the faces behind those people who get pissed off and rampage when something gets censored are faces such as these.

It's actually quite an interesting dissociation.  I mean, we know that every person speaking on the internet technically should be a person (unless their a persona invoked to shill something, but that's another tale).  But we don't see them much more than a 2-D character.  A stereotype that exists such that our brain doesn't need to fully characterize them or grasp their feelings. 

 

The line between what we view as acceptable and what we view as ridiculous is much blurrier than we'd like to imagine.  A terrific example in the USA is your guy's election.  Take a look at 3 people (well, maybe 5 if you're in a large city).  Heck, take a look at 5 friends.  One of them probably voted for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.  Or would have if they were interested in voting.  Yet you probably tie the side you don't agree with to some extremely ugly thoughts.  If you favoured Clinton, you probably see Trump supporters as rednecks or racists.  If you favour Trump, you probably see Clinton supporters as tax and spend nutbars who are out of touch with the "reality" of America.  But these people are your friends...you probably know them quite well.  Seeing the discrepancy between what you imagine and what you see is a terrific experience IMO. 


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Posted 18 December 2016 - 01:56 AM

I think less of someone on the internet when I do have a real face to identify them by. Says a lot about me.

 

There was one time where I met someone who claimed to be a twitch streamer, though. I don't have any particular opinions about twitch streamers, but I found it rather interesting how in spite of how he likely talks to an audience all the time, he was absolutely terrible at making eye contact with me and formulating decent responses. I was even trying to talk to him about videogames.


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:15 PM

I think less of someone on the internet when I do have a real face to identify them by. Says a lot about me.

 

There was one time where I met someone who claimed to be a twitch streamer, though. I don't have any particular opinions about twitch streamers, but I found it rather interesting how in spite of how he likely talks to an audience all the time, he was absolutely terrible at making eye contact with me and formulating decent responses. I was even trying to talk to him about videogames.

The funny thing about introverts (and people with aspurger's and the like, such as myself) is that in person, they are incredibly shy, and it takes a while for them to warm up to you. On the internet, however, they can be EXTREMELY outgoing, so much so that you'd never realize how awkward they'd be if they met you IRL.


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