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@  Mage Girl : (17 February 2020 - 02:33 AM) I can safely say I'm so far the only person to post to this shoutbox in 2020...
@  Fire Blazer : (24 December 2019 - 03:17 AM) naw, it's when the bots make collaborated efforts to crawl places, lol
@  kirant : (23 December 2019 - 05:20 AM) What do we do on Index Day? Give each other bots?
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@  xcrash1998 : (30 November 2019 - 11:07 PM) New fictional holiday "Index Day"
@  Fire Blazer : (28 November 2019 - 08:52 PM) yeah just guest bots and stuff I think :( we really were active once upon a time though...
@  kirant : (26 November 2019 - 03:48 PM) No invasion. I imagine a lot of guest bots visiting for indexing purposes.
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:15 PM) How is most people online at 959 for the 8th of October of this year? Is that right? Did I miss something or was there somekind of spambot invasion?
@  xcrash1998 : (26 November 2019 - 02:06 PM) I know what you mean, it gets awkard to post something unrelated to the current conversation, and even if somebody picks up on it, it would just become a huge mess in the c hatbox if a multitude of groups talk about different topics.
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:45 PM) especially better imo if you want to update on a topic but like only occasionally (e.g. a project you're working on or a let's play of a game)
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) it's hard for me to explain precisely why but forums just like work better for meaningful discussion over a longer period of time ig
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) but that's def just not hte same ig, idk
@  Fire Blazer : (10 November 2019 - 11:44 PM) yeah, you can also kind of respond at your own pace on forums. Discord conversations are often like... it's awkward to respond to something that happened a while ago, especially if the server is active, but even just in general. since you sort of need to keep track of multiple conversations at once at times, and it's not like it has a good reply/quote system ala forums, closest thing really is to copy/paste or screenshot the text you're responding to and then type a response below
@  Elwood : (09 November 2019 - 11:29 AM) Adding on to what's been said, I just enjoy the order and structure of the forums. You can look through the threads and know exactly what people are talking about. Conversation get lost and buried on discord which is why I'm not a big fan of it.
@  kirant : (06 November 2019 - 05:31 AM) I enjoy that part of forums too. They become niche communities where you can have very specialized conversations as opposed to the cluttered mess in Discord.
@  Ezra : (31 October 2019 - 01:17 AM) Yeah, part of me wishes I could go back to the times forums were more prevalent. I really enjoyed how even several different forums based off the same franchise could feel so different. It's not like what we now is bad though, I just feel nostalgic for old times.
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:39 AM) also forums in general are just not as prevalent, there are so many other ways to interact these days, like Twitter, FB, Tumblr, etc., where you can just throw your thoughts into the void. I think that's the real issue and that the only people rly interested in forums these days are either super dedicated to whatever they're about, have a specific reason/need to (e.g. support forums), or grew up with them and are thus attached to the idea enough to continue to try and use them (this was kinda me for a while lol but things happen, I couldn't keep it up forever)
@  Fire Blazer : (30 October 2019 - 06:36 AM) I've posted on SF for various reasons ofc but in terms of like making friends and stuff it's p. much just been smaller groups/forums, yeah. mainly FES
@  Elwood : (27 October 2019 - 10:08 PM) Only reason I'm even on Serenes was because I had hacking questions. @Ezra yeah I figured it must be an age thing. I've been called an old man by many a child because I use Facebook.
@  kirant : (26 October 2019 - 09:39 PM) It's strange. I don't think I've ever posted on Serenes...period. I've always been a fan of smaller forums.

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#1 Mikki

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 02:50 AM

Since SOPA and PIPA were killed ages ago, the Internet has been freed once again...but the whole issue of Internet Censorship is still discussed everywhere.

What are your thoughts on it?

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:18 AM

Not to mention CISPA is coming up now, which will allow the government to monitor your internet activity and cut off your internet if they suspect you of "terrorism"
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:12 AM

QUOTE (Zepher Tensho @ Dec 23 2012, 07:18 PM)
Not to mention CISPA is coming up now, which will allow the government to monitor your internet activity and cut off your internet if they suspect you of "terrorism"


What the crap....are you seriously kidding me? D: Well, we're officially screwed.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 05:07 AM

QUOTE (Mikki @ Dec 23 2012, 10:12 PM)
QUOTE (Zepher Tensho @ Dec 23 2012, 07:18 PM)
Not to mention CISPA is coming up now, which will allow the government to monitor your internet activity and cut off your internet if they suspect you of "terrorism"


What the crap....are you seriously kidding me? D: Well, we're officially screwed.


http://en.wikipedia...._Protection_Act

Sorry but no.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:42 AM

One thing I think people don't frequently note is that SOPA/PIPA are not really censorship by nature, but act as such if we make major simplifications. They're copyright and intellectual property acts (in fact, Alberta's own intellectual property standard law in regards to patents, copyright, trademark, and trade secret IS actually called PIPA, with a federal one for Canada is called PIPEDA).

Censorship could happen if we made a few assumptions:
- That larger corporations would attempt to use them to attack companies that could not fight a US based take-down notice
- That judges would agree with such a complaint. Remember, take-down notices, as defined in the act, would happen if a judge gave court order to do so. That would mean there needed to be sufficient proof of stolen intellectual property (being the accusatory party) and that the site was primarily defined to distribute it. The burden of proof is on the company, and websites such as Facebook/Google being targeted was outlandish by even a precursory reading of the proposed acts.
- That the owner of such site couldn't fight the complaints in court. If this was used as a way to squash things, it had to make sure that the defendant couldn't challenge the ruling.

These are some major assumptions we have made. Especially the concept of judicial intervention. I imagine few courts would take up trivial cases, while larger cases could fight back. And that's if it is used in such a manner with courts at the company's back.

Would it be ineffective as hell at protecting IP? Yeah. Anybody with half a brain for the internet would show that. And I never had problems with people saying it's an ineffective IP bill. But is it censorship at heart? Probably not.

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