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Posted 03 April 2009 - 10:52 PM

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:04 PM

I don't support homosexual marriages but whatever... leave it up to the people to decide in this Sodom and Gomorrah Democracy.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:05 PM

QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:04 pm)
I don't support homosexual marriages but whatever... leave it up to the people to decide in this Sodom and Gomorrah Democracy.

America's in a bad state right now, but we're not quite Sodom and Gomorrah. I don't see much wrong with homosexual marriage, myself, but even if homosexual marriage was wrong in my book, America still wouldn't quite be Sodom or Gomorrah.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:07 PM

QUOTE (Ephidel @ April 04, 2009 12:05 am)
QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:04 pm)
I don't support homosexual marriages but whatever... leave it up to the people to decide in this Sodom and Gomorrah Democracy.

America's in a bad state right now, but we're not quite Sodom and Gomorrah. I don't see much wrong with homosexual marriage, myself, but even if homosexual marriage was wrong in my book, America still wouldn't quite be Sodom or Gomorrah.

Yeah, probably not. You've got a point there. What do you think about the legalizing homosexual marriages though?

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:12 PM

QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:07 pm)
QUOTE (Ephidel @ April 04, 2009 12:05 am)
QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:04 pm)
I don't support homosexual marriages but whatever... leave it up to the people to decide in this Sodom and Gomorrah Democracy.

America's in a bad state right now, but we're not quite Sodom and Gomorrah. I don't see much wrong with homosexual marriage, myself, but even if homosexual marriage was wrong in my book, America still wouldn't quite be Sodom or Gomorrah.

Yeah, probably not. You've got a point there. What do you think about the legalizing homosexual marriages though?

I may not have ever considered marrying another man personally, but we don't, as far as I am concerned, even have the right to take their right to be married from them. I may not necessarily think the same way as they do, but I know I'd surely be upset if someone tried to take away Straight Marriage. Sure, that would probably never happen, but I just try to look at it that way.


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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:26 PM

QUOTE (Ephidel @ April 04, 2009 12:12 am)
QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:07 pm)
QUOTE (Ephidel @ April 04, 2009 12:05 am)
QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:04 pm)
I don't support homosexual marriages but whatever... leave it up to the people to decide in this Sodom and Gomorrah Democracy.

America's in a bad state right now, but we're not quite Sodom and Gomorrah. I don't see much wrong with homosexual marriage, myself, but even if homosexual marriage was wrong in my book, America still wouldn't quite be Sodom or Gomorrah.

Yeah, probably not. You've got a point there. What do you think about the legalizing homosexual marriages though?

I may not have ever considered marrying another man personally, but we don't, as far as I am concerned, even have the right to take their right to be married from them. I may not necessarily think the same way as they do, but I know I'd surely be upset if someone tried to take away Straight Marriage. Sure, that would probably never happen, but I just try to look at it that way.


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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:28 PM

QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:26 pm)
QUOTE (Ephidel @ April 04, 2009 12:12 am)
QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:07 pm)
QUOTE (Ephidel @ April 04, 2009 12:05 am)
QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 06:04 pm)
I don't support homosexual marriages but whatever... leave it up to the people to decide in this Sodom and Gomorrah Democracy.

America's in a bad state right now, but we're not quite Sodom and Gomorrah. I don't see much wrong with homosexual marriage, myself, but even if homosexual marriage was wrong in my book, America still wouldn't quite be Sodom or Gomorrah.

Yeah, probably not. You've got a point there. What do you think about the legalizing homosexual marriages though?

I may not have ever considered marrying another man personally, but we don't, as far as I am concerned, even have the right to take their right to be married from them. I may not necessarily think the same way as they do, but I know I'd surely be upset if someone tried to take away Straight Marriage. Sure, that would probably never happen, but I just try to look at it that way.


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Look at my sig... I try to make that my life... although I fall short many times...

I haven't been a hardcore Christian for a while. I was at a young age, then again around nineteen, but now I rarely go to Church, I do still pray once or twice a day on most days, but my relationship with the God I sometimes forget I believe in has fallen terribly. I guess that's partly because of my own immaturity.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:35 PM

I'm not gay, but I support gay-marriage. I mean how does it effect you? If you think it's a sin, then that's their choice, not yours.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:31 AM

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I'm not gay, but I support gay-marriage. I mean how does it effect you? If you think it's a sin, then that's their choice, not yours.

It's... just unnatural. You do realize homosexuality is just another way to reduce the population of humans... right? If everyone was straight, there would always be a possibility for reproduction... but if everyone was gay... where's the room for reproduction? I think homosexuality is wrong... but that's just me. Not only does it reduce a person's life... but stuff like AIDS began running rampart ever since homosexuality began to be more openly accepted. Sure, straight people get HIV, but that's only because they acquired it from the others who were homosexual (pre-marital sex = ...). So far, there is no scientific evidence of what causes homosexuality within genetics and all... so I think it's a choice made by people who were... bored or something. Homosexuality does affect others believe it or not... I haven't got to discuss everything about it yet though.

Yes, everyone is free to choose whatever they want to do... but does that make it right?

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:33 AM

Maybe I wasn't clear in my old posts. I'm bisexual. I didn't choose that, it's just the way I am. I may be married to a woman, but I've dated other men in the past. And since I didn't choose it, I'm disinclined to believe others do.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:36 AM

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Maybe I wasn't clear in my old posts. I'm bisexual. I didn't choose that, it's just the way I am. I may be married to a woman, but I've dated other men in the past. And since I didn't choose it, I'm disinclined to believe others do.

I don't know though... I'm sure somewhere along the lines you somewhat chose to do that. The thing is, I'm sure homosexuals are not in love for their same sex. If you look at it, one of them takes the role of the male while the other one takes the role of the female, even if they are the same gender. In fact, you can clearly see none of them take the same role. It comes to show that something just isn't right here...

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 07:36 pm)
I don't know though... I'm sure somewhere along the lines you somewhat chose to do that.

It isn't like I just woke up one day and thought "I'm gonna be bisexual, now." I just...woke up one day and realized I was attracted to certain men. Maybe it was a subconscious choice, but I'm not entirely sure. I have a memory loss problem, so it's all a blur to me. But still...I don't think I consciously chose to be bisexual.


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I guess. I'm not sure how to respond to that. I'll yield on the point that homosexuals often do take the role as man or woman in a relationship.

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE (wraith89 @ April 03, 2009 07:31 pm)
QUOTE (Bloodfalcon22 @ April 04, 2009 12:35 am)
I'm not gay, but I support gay-marriage. I mean how does it effect you? If you think it's a sin, then that's their choice, not yours.

It's... just unnatural. You do realize homosexuality is just another way to reduce the population of humans... right? If everyone was straight, there would always be a possibility for reproduction... but if everyone was gay... where's the room for reproduction? I think homosexuality is wrong... but that's just me. Not only does it reduce a person's life... but stuff like AIDS began running rampart ever since homosexuality began to be more openly accepted. Sure, straight people get HIV, but that's only because they acquired it from the others who were homosexual (pre-marital sex = ...). So far, there is no scientific evidence of what causes homosexuality within genetics and all... so I think it's a choice made by people who were... bored or something. Homosexuality does affect others believe it or not... I haven't got to discuss everything about it yet though.

Yes, everyone is free to choose whatever they want to do... but does that make it right?

If their weird, what does it have to do with you? With the human population thing, the Earth is crowded, and the population isn't going to cut down dramatically. For the sin thing, is the sin hurting anyone?
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:47 AM

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I'm not gay, but I support gay-marriage. I mean how does it effect you? If you think it's a sin, then that's their choice, not yours.

It's... just unnatural. You do realize homosexuality is just another way to reduce the population of humans... right? If everyone was straight, there would always be a possibility for reproduction... but if everyone was gay... where's the room for reproduction? I think homosexuality is wrong... but that's just me. Not only does it reduce a person's life... but stuff like AIDS began running rampart ever since homosexuality began to be more openly accepted. Sure, straight people get HIV, but that's only because they acquired it from the others who were homosexual (pre-marital sex = ...). So far, there is no scientific evidence of what causes homosexuality within genetics and all... so I think it's a choice made by people who were... bored or something. Homosexuality does affect others believe it or not... I haven't got to discuss everything about it yet though.

Yes, everyone is free to choose whatever they want to do... but does that make it right?

If their weird, what does it have to do with you? With the human population thing, the Earth is crowded, and the population isn't going to cut down dramatically. For the sin thing, is the sin hurting anyone?

Earth being crowded is a myth. There is around 7 billion people on Earth. 12 billion people can fit in one city inside Florida... the overpopulation stuff is merely the western government's propaganda to kill some people off for their globalization scheme. If it gets crowded in your area... just simply move. There's plenty of space out there...

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:49 AM

I highly doubt the earth is actually crowded...but tell me this. Do homosexuals infringe upon your rights as a citizen? The same goes for trannies and nudists.
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I highly doubt the earth is actually crowded...but tell me this. Do homosexuals infringe upon your rights as a citizen? The same goes for trannies and nudists.

The American public schools are being led by homosexual activists trying to infringe their homosexuality trying to make it look normal... especially to little children around age 5, who are their targets, for being young makes you vulnerable to most influences. I'm sure British state schools work the same way... if not it has already been done.

I'm not familiar with the term "trannies'. What does that mean?

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:53 AM

How is Gay marraige unconstitutional. >.> The article doesn't say, please explain. Whatever happened to equality under the law.

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:53 AM

Then, those specific homosexuals are wrong. But homosexuals in general do not infringe upon straight citizen's rights.

"How is Gay marraige unconstitutional. >.> The article doesn't say, please explain. Whatever happened to equality under the law."

No, you misunderstand. The law to ban Gay marriage is unconstitutional.

"I'm not familiar with the term "trannies'. What does that mean?"

Crossdressers.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:57 AM

QUOTE (Ephidel @ April 04, 2009 01:53 am)
Then, those specific homosexuals are wrong. But homosexuals in general do not infringe upon straight citizen's rights.

"How is Gay marraige unconstitutional. >.> The article doesn't say, please explain. Whatever happened to equality under the law."

No, you misunderstand. The law to ban Gay marriage is unconstitutional.

I would have no problem if they were to keep their homosexuality to themselves (despite it being wrong in my opinion and all, but let's not get into that right now)... but the fact they infringe themselves on others (like liberals) just makes me sick. By spreading it upon young children they are screwing up the young generation! You have the media, modern literature, modern music... all promoting sodomy like that.

BTW I crossdressed once... but only for an experiment. I'm never doing that again -__-

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 01:02 AM

I have friends who are trannies, actually. They're not as weird as people think they are. Well yeah...people who spread it is wrong. If someone is homosexual, they're homosexual. But pushing it on others is wrong.
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