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#141 badkiara

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 05:55 PM

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Garcia fails. He's slow as heck and Ross doesn't need Tower abuse.
You can easily get him to a Pirate during chapter 3 using hand axe/hatchet abuse. If you didn't do that, you can easily get him to a pirate/fighter within a few chapters later, so you don't need the tower. Ross can go beserker and that critical boost beats anything that Garcia can have.

Hand axe/ hatchet abuse is babying, and I can do that for anybody else except colm, moulder, and eirika with javelins. Odds are more likely than not that Ross won't be promoted until ~ midway through chapter 6. If we use ross, that means we also miss out on using good peeps like vanessa, moulder, and seth cuz you have to dump 2 units. We have a lot of people better than ross, so why not use them? Why let ross do all these things and nobody else? I sense bias.

If you still don't think so, I'll debate you on it.

It's a bit of babying but it is freaking worth it.

Not to mention you get him like... THE SECOND FREAKING CHAPTER OF THE GAME.

That very tiny bit of babying doesn't affect your gameplay in the end.

So yeh, that tiny bit of babying doesn't matter at all and Ross pwns most of the units in the end. Pirate > Berserker OR Fighter > Hero

I prefer Berserker.
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 05:59 PM

Check his averages. You'll see what I mean. Nothing stellar. Journeyman>Pirate>Berserker, he only caps strength on average. And nobody's getting to 20/20 during story w/out babying. CC, nobody cares, since there's 124364636466574765456745467 stat boosters. Ross usually ends up lower than most before CC actually, since he starts so low. Ross is nothing special.
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 06:13 PM

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 06:33 PM

Why are we debating about FE8 anyway? Everyone is broken.

Seth can basically solo the game by himself.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 07:04 PM

Like, anyone except the trainees and healers can solo the game.

FE6 is where axe users are bad. Seeing hit rates in the 50s from them isn't good.
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 07:07 PM

But the Berserkers in Fe:6 have that handy 30% crit rate and since Killer axes are cheap as chips.

And in Fe:6 even if the normal attack misses you can still crit, unlike Fe:7 and 8
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 07:45 PM

So basically, axe users need killer weapons to reliably hit? I'll admit, zerkers 30% hit rate is nice for them, but warriors, pirates, and fighters? NOT reliable.
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 07:51 PM

Pff, It's not just axe users who have trouble. Anyone with a bad skill growth is screwed(Eg. Barth).

But yeah, the three warriors are pretty terrible at hitting, except earlygame all the enemies have low avoid so their raw power is very useful.

Pirates? There's only one pirate - Geese and he has good hit

16 Hit at 20/1 is not at all bad for an axe user
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:07 PM

This is still avoiding the fact the Fighters are IMPORTANT for the beginning of the game.
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:09 PM

*Cough*

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except earlygame all the enemies have low avoid so their raw power is very useful.


I just said that...
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:39 PM

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Garcia fails. He's slow as heck and Ross doesn't need Tower abuse.
You can easily get him to a Pirate during chapter 3 using hand axe/hatchet abuse. If you didn't do that, you can easily get him to a pirate/fighter within a few chapters later, so you don't need the tower. Ross can go beserker and that critical boost beats anything that Garcia can have.

Hand axe/ hatchet abuse is babying, and I can do that for anybody else except colm, moulder, and eirika with javelins. Odds are more likely than not that Ross won't be promoted until ~ midway through chapter 6. If we use ross, that means we also miss out on using good peeps like vanessa, moulder, and seth cuz you have to dump 2 units. We have a lot of people better than ross, so why not use them? Why let ross do all these things and nobody else? I sense bias.

If you still don't think so, I'll debate you on it.

Wat.

So that means that using a hand-axe for anybody is babying them? Alright, I'll just throw away that(actually, I'll place it on the ground slowly, in case I hit somebody when I throw it away).

Ross>>>>>Garcia.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:40 PM

No, he means abusing the boss in Ch.3 to get Ross to lv.10 is abuse.

Ross does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Garcia

Both are mediocre at best
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:48 PM

I didn't use that many. Just five >'s. xD

But still, the game designers wouldn't have put the hand axe in, if not to be used.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:11 PM

Too bad Barth isn't a class. It doesn't really matter if early game enemies have low avoid when you have like, 70 hit IGNORING ENEMY AVOID. It doesn't take much avoid for your hit to be bad. And how are any of them necessary early game?

If Geese has GOOD accuracy for axe users, then they are even worse than I thought. He's probably never even pulling off 70 hit with an iron axe, except maybe against a weighed down soldier. Hammer for effective damage? Lol 61 hit on an enemy with 0 avoid.
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 10:48 PM

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Why are we debating about FE8 anyway? Everyone is broken.

Seth can basically solo the game by himself.

Fine prove me wrong.

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True, FE8 is super broken. Let's leave it out of this duscussion. In fact, Seraph, could you move it to FE6/7 section? FE8 makes everyone broken to the point where we'd have to compare who has better caps.

Dath, handaxe is to be used, not abused. if ross abuses ch. 3 boss, so can seth, franz, gilliam, vanessa, gracia, and neimi. By saying Ross gets to abuse ch. 3 boss but denying Garcia that option, you are sandbagging Garcia to make Ross lokk better than the unit he really is.
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#156 Dath

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 04:48 PM

Mkay. But how would you do that? Give Ross the handaxe one turn, then trade it to Garcia? o_O

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 05:12 PM

No Seraph, DO NOT MOVE IT. It BELONGS in General Discussion.

Also, Reinfleche, you can only request that your own topics be moved.

Also, I have never "boss abused" Ross, he always gets to level 10 with his trainee axe and the first enemies before that.
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 05:21 PM

^^Oh, wait a minute. I forgot that Ross had his own handaxe type weapon. Forget my last post.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:55 AM

Just tossing my thoughts out for bad classes.

Blade Lord: No crit bonus, expensive as shit weapons
Sniper: No counters, bad base stats
Warrior: Every Warrior ever sucked unless their name is Geitz.
Eirika Great Lord: A watered down nomad trooper, except without the bows, locked to swords, and an awful animation. Wouldn't it have been great if she could use lances like Eliwood did?
Ephraim Great Lord: Shit caps by all means, locked to lances, and should've used swords like Eliwood did.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 05:24 PM

^I agree with the Eirika and Sniper ones but

Warrior? You mad, there's no way they're the worst class. Their heavy power at the beginning of the game is really helpful, they're too much of an asset early on which outways them if they're a nuisance later on
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