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#121 Fire Blazer

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 04:29 PM

Was gonna pick Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies but go figure that got taken

Guess I'll go for The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons if that counts (Wind Waker was also up there, in which case I'd have picked the HD version for Wii U since it's pretty much the definitive version...)

if LoZ doesn't count as puzzle/adventure, then Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc will be my pick

leaving Professor Layton to someone else

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE (Oblivion Knight @ Apr 24 2014, 10:11 AM)
Had a feeling an Ace Attorney game would get picked up straight away, but I've got a great backup.

Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors. Absolutely amazing. Love it and the sequel, Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward.

If nobody's played it, but have played any of the Ace Attorney games, I feel they'd like this one as well.


Not bad. I need to give that a shot as well. In fact, I might have bought it if I didn't see TWEWY first.

QUOTE (Fire Blazer @ Apr 24 2014, 11:29 AM)
Was gonna pick Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies but go figure that got taken

Guess I'll go for The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons if that counts (Wind Waker was also up there, in which case I'd have picked the HD version for Wii U since it's pretty much the definitive version...)

if LoZ doesn't count as puzzle/adventure, then Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc will be my pick

leaving Professor Layton to someone else


Haha, if LoZ doesn't go through, Kirant will be crying between you two's choices. Shame on me for not thinking of Dangit Ronpaul, though. I probably still would've went with AAI, but still, it should've crossed my mind.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:02 PM

It's cool. I've not played the 2D ones. I probably would've nixed the 3D ones.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:38 PM

F***

I mean, nuts. Why could I not have 1st here?

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE (kirant @ Apr 24 2014, 06:38 PM)
F***

I mean, nuts.  Why could I not have 1st here?


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 06:02 PM

This actually does kinda suck for Kirant, considering I see him as a relatively avid fan of this genre (at least compared to others).

#8 pick... T_T need a hug?

I don't get why the 3D ones aren't puzzle-adventure

I mean I just see puzzle-adventure as some kind of game where you control a character and solve puzzles to progress through the game... which is what I see most LoZ games as

If it was *just* the puzzle genre (or maybe puzzle/logic), then no, that wouldn't work, but then it'd open up the route to other games like... Pushmo ok I don't play a lot of raw puzzle games I'll be honest, they tend to be too hard for my wee little brain anyhow

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 06:46 PM

If it was just puzzle, I might have gone, what, Mario's Picross? Tetris would be isntalock for first pick and the rest would be obscure. Pokemon Puzzle League might show up, but that's all I can think of.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 07:49 PM

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I don't get why the 3D ones aren't puzzle-adventure

I mean I just see puzzle-adventure as some kind of game where you control a character and solve puzzles to progress through the game... which is what I see most LoZ games as

If it was *just* the puzzle genre (or maybe puzzle/logic), then no, that wouldn't work, but then it'd open up the route to other games like... Pushmo ok I don't play a lot of raw puzzle games I'll be honest, they tend to be too hard for my wee little brain anyhow


The 3D ones are so action-adventure though, it's like saying FFX gets in because the temples all have puzzles. When I put puzzle-adventure, I meant puzzle games and like, point and click adventures/VNs, as I put in the post. Next time I'll use a /.

QUOTE (SmashedFish @ Apr 24 2014, 07:46 PM)
If it was just puzzle, I might have gone, what, Mario's Picross? Tetris would be isntalock for first pick and the rest would be obscure. Pokemon Puzzle League might show up, but that's all I can think of.


Forgetting the king, Minesweeper. Physics games would count too.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:24 PM

I could list some games, but it'd highly devalue them as possible picks. :/
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (Fire Blazer @ Apr 24 2014, 11:02 AM)
This actually does kinda suck for Kirant, considering I see him as a relatively avid fan of this genre (at least compared to others).

Maybe it's a good thing. With this and strategy, I've got some pretty deep lists so I can afford my top pick (999) to drop off a cliff.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:07 PM

Catherine.

I dislike this genre, so I'll pick the fun Atlus game that bb reminded me about.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:19 PM

Me and my big mouth. Would've picked that D:

I'm taking...ack. Decisions, decisions.

Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective

Great game, a bit trial-and-error at times, but it carries itself well.

Fuck it though, I actually struggled here.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:14 PM

Leave it to bb to remind everyone there's actual picks remaining.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (bblues @ Apr 27 2014, 02:19 PM)
Me and my big mouth. Would've picked that D:

I'm taking...ack. Decisions, decisions.

Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective

Great game, a bit trial-and-error at times, but it carries itself well.

Fuck it though, I actually struggled here.


Snow's still not around, so Seraph go~


Nice choice, mate. That's one of the few games on my must-buy list right now.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:33 PM

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Leave it to bb to remind everyone there's actual picks remaining.

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Aww, thanks. I think you can get it on iPhone/Pad now, if you're struggling to find a copy.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 10:08 PM

today's Seraph's birthday so I'll bother him another time XP

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The 3D ones are so action-adventure though


maybe that's why I tended to not enjoy them as much (though I enjoyed Wind Waker a bit)

that being said you can always switch mine to Danganronpa or whatever I put as the pick if LoZ didn't count, I don't want to be unfair

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 12:26 AM

Professor Layton and the Lost Future.

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 01:20 AM

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Aww, thanks. I think you can get it on iPhone/Pad now, if you're struggling to find a copy.


Oh cool, it's in the app store. Of course my phone is out of memory. >_> As for finding a copy, I haven't really looked, to be honest. Also, I've gotta finish a few games before I can justify buying another, haha.

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 02:29 AM

I draft Danganronpa: Trigger-Happy Havoc then.

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Published by Spike Chunsoft (which does the Zero Escape franchise, my first pick), Danganronpa is basically the lovechild of Ace Attorney and a rhythm game. It was a huge success in Japan and was translated because of the Let's Play on SomethingAwful. The games match up with 999 as some of my favourite games period.

It's almost impossible to categorize the game along any traditional routes. As a bit of background, the story focuses on Hope's Peak Academy, a location where talented individuals are brought together. They represent the absolute best in their field and are designated by the term "Super High School Level ____" or "Ultimate ____" in English). For example, one character named Celes (Celeste in the translation) is a terrific at games of chance and has swindled insane amounts of money from others. So naturally she's titled "Ultimate Gambler".

Much like the Zero Escape games, it begins with our main character (for the game above, Naegi Makato) losing consciousness. He wakes up at the high school he was just invited to and finds out, to his horror, that they're all locked in and must kill each other in order to escape. But if someone does die, a class investigation is done where everybody tries to find who the murderer was. If the culprit is found, the murderer is executed in a method related to their talent. I've put one in spoilers below.

DEATH (Click Here To Hide/Show Text)
This is for Leon Kutawa, the "SHSL Baseball Star". Anybody who speaks English WILL figure out his murder right away.



And who's at the head of all this? A black and white teddy bear. Named Monokuma (a play on "Monochrome").

Anyways, that's enough about the story. Why did I pick this game? Well, it's the same reason I love the Haruhi Suzumiya franchise: it's a bit of everything. The story itself is pretty horrifying even with its stylized pink blood (done to keep the rating low enough. Bear in mind that this is a game with an M rating). There's a lengthy "Nightmare Fuel" section on TVtropes about every murder and execution. Again, I'll use the first murder here.

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And despite all that, it's got an even LONGER "Funny moments" section. It's truly a lot of emotional torque as you get to spend time with what is likely a future murderer or murder victim. You'll come to love someone and then realize that they'll die after. By the way, in the second game the antagonist tells you to not get so attached to video game characters. Too late. sad.gif. My favourite character in this game certainly died.

That not enough? Well, it's got an amazing soundtrack. I actually loop a few of them while working on my writing projects. I've put "Discussion - HEAT UP" below. It's used during the class investigation aspect of the game.



Speaking of Class Investigations, these are the flashiest debates you'll ever see. The first image I used? Imagine stuff flying around and you're shooting your counterarguments at it. Okay. Maybe words aren't the best way. Just look at the demo below (Debates start at 5:00 of the first video...then imagine having 5-6 pieces of possible arguments and several possible weaknesses in the argument. They also get a little more subtle than the above).




There's more than that in the investigations, but I don't think there'll be enough space to express how awesome it is to have real time debates.

Finally, this game is extremely meta. Any Ace Attorney fan is likely going to hit the bad end first unless they're savvy. The characters are pretty much living tropes. And by the second game, they pretty much dedicate a character for destroying the fourth wall one brick at a time.

I could go on until I break the character limit...but I'll stop here.

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:52 AM

bahahaha

I kinda skimmed it because I already have the game

might not be your ideal pick but it's a solid one regardless

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