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[SilentSentinel]

QUOTE (Ugly Little Slime @ Aug 8 2012, 08:56 PM)

Why you overreacting?? I just respond to people who say things that aren't true. It not big deal, but I think it bigger deal that Blazer try to justify being rude when it was uncalled for! It not about his mod, it is his personality that was uncalled for I do not care what happens. I just want Blazer to stop being grouch

If you don't care what happens, then kindly refrain from continuing to spew rubbish. If you have a problem with the hack, you don't have to play it.

To actually stay on topic for once: Blazer, I'm curious as to how many new characters you've added. The extra Wyvern Rider seems like a nice addition, and since iirc you said you aren't replacing Ben with her, does this mean there will be 3 now, considering Leopold? (Unless he's gone now).

[Fire Blazer]

I'm not being grouchy, you're being an asshole to me and then you're complaining because I'm responding to you being an asshole

Of course I'm going to respond, even if you were insulting the shit out of someone else I'd STILL respond because it's wrong and it's mean and you don't have the smallest idea of what you're talking about.

I am 10x less grouchy than you and 10x more friendly than you. You're the one who essentially came out of nowhere and started insulting me, my personality, my work ethic, and my life, without even taking a minute to really get to know me. If you DO think you know me, that just shows how arrogant you are, because dude I don't even have a ****ing clue what hole in the ground you popped out from.

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Well, put this in perspective. He's been working on this for about 3 years now. He's practically 100% complete now. Do you really expect him to be happy about having to go back and change what's already been complete? Like I said, quit while you're behind.

That's not even it

I've done that several times already

Hell I'm STILL doing it

and it's more like 4 years

and then this guy expects even MORE? Like seriously at some point people need to just be happy and learn to take things for what they are, this is a fan hack mainly done by one person, not a professional video game done by a team of people who are experts paid to do what they do

Not only that but he doesn't even take a minute to understand the situation and then starts calling me out for personality issues and bad work ethic and whatnot

Like seriously this dude doesn't even know the first thing about me

And this game doesn't have any bugs, there are only small minor details that I might miss here and there, and it's not that I don't try to fix them but that perfection is impossible and only idiots keep trying to achieve perfection forever.

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When an artist refuses to see or even believe that his work has no problems, then his work is nothing. However, that is not to say that an artist needs to fix these. Problems and errors are a beauty within their own right, sometimes it's better to take a step forward in the name of progress than to take a step back in the name of perfection.

This as well

And it's not all exactly art but I realize it's not perfect

but I'm not going for perfection

I'm going for "good, fun, and enjoyable"

when you sacrifice all those things just to achieve "perfection", "perfection" becomes pointless because you don't get any satisfaction out of achieving it

so Slime's way of thinking is an idealistic piece of shit

which is why you're going to disappear

I've had enough of people causing drama on my forum and I warned everyone multiple times not to cause it, ESPECIALLY in this thread which can't seem to go 5 posts without having someone spew some shit

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Blazer, I do think you are overreacting just a bit. Ugly Little Slime was just giving a suggestion. Like he said, you don't have to follow it.

I could think of 200 better ways to give a suggestion than attacking my personality, behavior, and work ethic

All that makes me want to do is shove shit up his ass so he can throw it up through his mouth

Not even the douchebags on Serenes Forest are this insulting

I don't give a shit if you're JUST insulting TLP, it's when you start attacking my character like that without even knowing me IN THE LEAST that I get pissed

That's what this guy did and no person like that can ever have any sort of respect from me, not even as a human being

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And then tries to protect the mod by saying, "Only I can make videos of it first!!" because other people have been making jabs at him and the quality of his work lately. Some times it feels like Blazer is appeasing bullies, and then bullies others

see this is only proving my point of you not understanding the situation at all

I don't want people making videos of it BECAUSE THERE ARE ****ING SPOILERS THAT I DON'T WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO POST BEFORE I DO BECAUSE I MADE THE ****ING GAME YOU LITTLE ****ING RETARD

My God you're seriously making me explode I can't believe a dick like you exists

This is probably all some big troll act because trolls purposely choose to make up shit about people and that's more or less what you're doing and my God it pisses me off and you're successful as hell

but you're not going to exist anymore

brb

[Nayr Farros]

TLP/TU is a work in progress. It will be finished, but some people don't feel like waiting around endlessly, so demo patches come out to satisfy them.

Long story short. Get over it.

[Fire Blazer]

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...In addition, no problem has actually been pointed out that I am aware of. The thing that Nickt was talking about was merely his opinion and nothing actually wrong with the game itself.

this

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I agree with this. "Finished Product" would imply that everything is to the greatest standard it can be. People have been trying to defend Blazer, saying he's worked so much, if he's truly on the final sprint of this project, then what he actually should be doing right now is going back and refining his product.

That's exactly

what

the ****

I'm doing

But there's like

different levels

Complete -> Refined -> Super Refined -> Near-Perfect -> Pleases 99% of people who play it -> Perfect (unachievable)

I'm at the "Super Refined" stage

Near-Perfect will happen once more people test it and I release bug fix patches. It can't be helped but it takes a lot of people to test something to get it to "near-perfect". Even professional games have patches that fix things now a days.

But the stuff you mentioned was like "99%" section

Like I can't ****ing please every little stupid whim that doesn't really affect the enjoyment and you know what, if I DO try to fix it there's a damn good chance it'll make somebody else unhappy

So for a HACK, we stop at near-perfect

and expecting more is ****ing naive and stupid as ****

Like I don't even know what grass tiles you're talking about or what eye problems you're talking about, the stuff you mentioned is so obscure and unnoticeable that even when you point it out I STILL don't notice it, to me that says "it's definitely not worth investing more of my time into fixing" and people who still go trying to fix things they don't even see as problems after that are either getting paid to do what they do or are insane

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If he isn't at the refining stage, then he's not truly anywhere near close to having a finished product, simple as that. Sure, not everything can be fixed, but to use the idea that perfection is unobtainable as an excuse as to ignore issues in your own game which have been repeatedly and consistently pointed out, thus refusing to fix these errors and problems before releasing it as a whole and call if finished, is a joke.

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have been repeatedly and consistently pointed out

um

you're making up bull now

because not only was the stuff you mentioned the first time I'd ever heard of it but it's so obscure that I can't even see what you're talking about even when you DO point it out

also this isn't the same as artwork, stop treating it like it

you need to learn to differentiate instead of making inapplicable metaphors

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I can understand not fixing things if you're only a few chapters in, or half way, but if you're nearing the very end where you're discussing the hack as a near-finished project, then you've indeed got to start focusing on ironing out all the problems.

I have been

and the next time you start mentioning crap like this

don't be like Slime and be totally in the dark when you start

because both of you are, he was just much worse so he got deleted

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Seriously guys. This is getting ridiculous. You guys are acting as if he doesn't give a shit about it and is refusing to fix anything. If you think he's not trying to fix whatever he can before it's released you are mistaken. Like I said before, the "problem" in this discussion is merely a graphical opinion. It's hardly game-breaking. Now if it was, then I would be on the other side of this argument. I can't believe I'm actually getting into this right now. Stuff like this makes me wonder why I even came back.

Stuff like this is why despite being the admin around here I spend less time than most of the normal members

like it's not enjoyable anymore due to this shit, the level of member quality has gone down so much

@fuzz okay (sorry, I have little to say after getting out all my rage)

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If you don't care what happens, then kindly refrain from continuing to spew rubbish. If you have a problem with the hack, you don't have to play it. To actually stay on topic for once: Blazer, I'm curious as to how many new characters you've added. The extra Wyvern Rider seems like a nice addition, and since iirc you said you aren't replacing Ben with her, does this mean there will be 3 now, considering Leopold? (Unless he's gone now).

Alright.

A normal post.

*deep breath*

I really snapped there, sorry. I got majorly insulted with what's probably the biggest project of my life, honestly. *sigh*

There are just a couple new characters, but you'll find that there are also characters in the new chapters that haven't been released that you haven't really met before, so including those, there are plenty of "new" characters. XP

Also, you get 2 Wyvern Riders and potentially 1 Wyvern Lord. I realize this is more than the usual 2-only, but considering one of them is optional and they all have their niches and are all unique, usable characters, I don't see the harm.

[SilentSentinel]

Very cool, I'm excited to see them in all their glory! It's going to be very interesting playing the final version when compared to the one that's been out for a while, I have a feeling it will be an almost completely different game, even without the major storyline changes. The massive revamps have likely altered many of the chapters we've all already played.

All in all, super psyched for this! Knowing that TLP will probably get released soon is keeping me from going insane waiting for Awakening to reach us!

[?????]

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because not only was the stuff you mentioned the first time I'd ever heard of it but it's so obscure that I can't even see what you're talking about even when you DO point it out also this isn't the same as artwork, stop treating it like it you need to learn to differentiate instead of making inapplicable metaphors

*sigh*
Y'know, for an admin, you have really poor people skills, just saying. Plus, getting angry over the internet? I mean, this is the kind of thing where you can sit back, calm down and relax for a few minutes before writing. Nothing is saying you have to write now, write angrily and pretty much just come off as a child. Surely you have a little bit more decency in you Keriku?

Also, what I consider art is anything that is creatively expressed, so that encompasses things like writing, drawing, music, movies, games. Those kind of things are my vision of art. So yeah, pretty much every aspect of your hack is a part of art.

Also, if you don't understand what I say when I talk about graphical things, then I assume that you're not the major graphical artist. Well instead of just ignore my post, why not further it onto your graphical artists? Seems quite logical to me if you're managing a team.

Also, Grammar isn't the hardest thing to understand. I know your forum is incredibly lax when it comes to management, rules and behavior and the like, doesn't mean you can ignore the major points of the English language when you're entering a serious conversation. Seems like something more for spam land or whatever you all call those things these days.

I refuse to comment on anything else in the post due to the childish nature of it. *shrug*

EDIT:
I will say one more thing however. I understand what it's like to undertake a project. Unlike yourself though, when I began each of the projects I've gone through over the years, the FE Hacks I've tasked myself with, I found myself going back over and over again, trying to make things perfect. Even now with my RMVXA project, I've not even finished the opening once, yet found myself deleting what I've had completely and starting over on four different occasions.

Nothing I said was to discourage you, none of it was meant in jest nor in malice. My first comment was just that, a slight comment, criticism, meant to draw your attention to something that I and potentially only I see as something which could be fixed and be made to make the overall product better.

[Ristau]

I honestly don't understand why you don't just drop it after what he just said... are you fixing for a ban/consequences? Honestly, dude. You seem cool and all, but it's really dumb that you're continuing to fuel this and add more shit, and then say that you'll no longer continue in such a childish discussion. You fueling a portion of it makes you a complete hypocrite... EVERYONE JUST CALM DOWN. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE LAST PROMISE, THEN DON'T SAY IT HERE (also, I don't care about the mini-modding rule at this point. Someone needed to step in).

[Fire Blazer]

Thanks for the comments, SilentSentinel, tbh I haven't really gotten to enjoy the game myself so I'm excited for its finish too, haha.

Also, topic locked for like the 100th time because clearly the people on my forum aren't mature enough to handle basic discussion without treating their opinions like fact or taking constant personal jabs at people they don't know.

[Fire Blazer]

This topic is reserved for updates on the game!

Due to issues with members unable to communicate in this topic while still following the Rules, this topic has been locked.

However, major updates will continue here and on the first post.

Please check the blog at http://www.thelastpromise.net for all major updates.

Hack discussion will be limited to youtube, the blog, and other forums for the time being.

Thank you for your understanding.

- Creator of The Last Promise

[Fire Blazer]

The first post has been updated slightly.

I'll also be posting on the blog shortly.

[Fire Blazer]

Reopening the topic because the game is coming out. All posts unrelated to the topic or that might start problems will be deleted without notice at the discretion of the moderators.

Thank you for your understanding.

[Snow]

****** I thought the game was out

Well anyway in the videos I noticed a lot of changes. Should I start were I left off or should I begin a new game?

[the cool guy]

Start over.
The ravamps looks awesome and Karina would mess the game up...

[Solace]

I can't wait for the release, looking forward to seeing the changes that were made; especially the plot revamp.

definitely staying up all night to play this

[Bobryk]

HELLS YEAH. I'll be sure to play this weekend/next week. And from the very beginning, too.

[Ristau]

QUOTE (Matt Snow @ Aug 17 2012, 01:07 PM)

****** I thought the game was out Well anyway in the videos I noticed a lot of changes. Should I start were I left off or should I begin a new game?

I recommend that you start over. There was a LOT changed since 2010, lol.

[Snow]

Thanks I'll start over then

[Fire Blazer]

http://www.thelastpr...0-download.html

I don't think the game will work properly in the LEAST if you don't reset. Sorry guys. The plot also won't make sense, amongst a bunch of other stuff. Please reset.

...

Oh and that link I posted is the post which has the download.

...And wooh, I got it out on the 17th. Just barely made my deadline.

[Solace]

I love you.

Now to spend the entire night playing through the game

[Snow]

Blazer you have no frickin' idea. It's 11:58 here.