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QUOTE (Blazer @ Aug 8 2012, 02:59 AM)

@Ace thanks @Nickt eh, I think it's fine and you're being overly nitpicky >_>' like I'm pretty damn nitpicky but that just seems like opinionated stuff no one but you would mention XD and all mini-portraits are just cut-outs of the main face (inspired by Ace, in fact) because I don't have someone to go making quality chibis of every character in the game tl;dr you have way too high expectations for poor old Blazer lol

Fine, reject my opinions. ;~;

Lol, I clearly remember doing that idea before Ace did, but damn, that was quite a while ago now. xD
But yeah, I make decent chibis. >__________________________________>

[Fire Blazer]

and I think you're being completely unreasonable and unrealistic

I've already put a couple thousand hours into this hack and you actually have the guts to say that stuff to me without even beginning to comprehend the situation

it's ignorance like that that ACTUALLY ticks me off

but you know what it's 6AM in the morning and I worked like 20 hours on this project in the past 28 hours that I've been awake so I'm just going to let you live in your fantasy world where people can be perfect and do everything and please everyone because I don't want to be the mean guy who has to wake you up

edit: Nickt I didn't even respond to your post

and it's not rejecting you're expecting too much

"perfect" is an illusion, we can never achieve it, we can never even get close because we only get more and more ambitious

only idiots don't draw a line on that

this hack has only gotten as far as it has because at some point I drew a line and actually took steps forward instead of constantly checking where I was stepping to make sure I made the perfect footprints

[Fire Blazer]

What? It's not getting worked up over nothing. Are you actually being serious or are you just trolling.

You just straight-up insulted me and my hack big time in one of the worst ways you could

Seriously, watch your words, if your thoughts are going to be so poorly thought-out that they deeply insult and offend other people you'd best not share them here.

And you'd also best prepare for the consequences if you decide to. Know the weight of the words you speak because for every force there is an equal and opposite force, and if you can't handle it then you shouldn't be exerting that force in the first place

[SilentSentinel]

You've gotta cut him some slack dude, Blazer's been working nonstop and can't slow down now. It's totally understandable for him to be a little tense right now.

[Falaflame]

@Ugly Little Slime: One of my teachers preached to me, the law of the hole. To get out of the hole, stop digging.

In other words, quit while you're behind. You've only been here for 2 days. You know nothing of what's going on. You're only making the situation worse.

[Falaflame]

Well, put this in perspective. He's been working on this for about 3 years now. He's practically 100% complete now. Do you really expect him to be happy about having to go back and change what's already been complete?

Like I said, quit while you're behind.

[?????]

When an artist refuses to see or even believe that his work has no problems, then his work is nothing.

However, that is not to say that an artist needs to fix these. Problems and errors are a beauty within their own right, sometimes it's better to take a step forward in the name of progress than to take a step back in the name of perfection.

[flyingace24]

To be honest, I'm going to have to go with Ugly Little Slime on this one. Sort of anyway. Blazer, I do think you are overreacting just a bit. Ugly Little Slime was just giving a suggestion. Like he said, you don't have to follow it.

On the other hand, Slime, I do feel like you are escalating this, whether you realize it or not. You really don't know what's going on with Blazer. None of us do. Don't go posting stuff like that. I think it is fine with suggesting your opinions, but posting like this:

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People who work on their projects for long periods of time tend to get overly attached to them, look past the flaws, and excuse any faults. It's honestly normal behavior for most of us! But that doesn't mean we can justify the faults just because we don't think our little babies have any.

is not the way to do it.


We don't need to be talking about this. Let's talk about the hack itself please.

[Falaflame]

QUOTE (シーグッマ @ Aug 8 2012, 07:15 PM)

When an artist refuses to see or even believe that his work has no problems, then his work is nothing. However, that is not to say that an artist needs to fix these. Problems and errors are a beauty within their own right, sometimes it's better to take a step forward in the name of progress than to take a step back in the name of perfection.

Nickt is absolutely right on the last part. This hack will become a drag if you try and perfect each and every piece of it. No matter what, there will always be issues. If it was early-midway through the progress of the hack, I would understand the need to fix all these "little things", but when it's already done, or really close to it, then there's no imminent need.

Think about it. Would you feel happy if you were told to fix small insignificant things when you're already done with your product? Blazer certainly doesn't, and believe it or not, neither would you.

I won't be posting further on this subject. I've said what I wanted to say.

[flyingace24]

Again Slime, while I agree that problems should be fixed before release, you're not helping any. Just drop it. In addition, no problem has actually been pointed out that I am aware of. The thing that Nickt was talking about was merely his opinion and nothing actually wrong with the game itself.

[Ristau]

QUOTE (Ugly Little Slime @ Aug 8 2012, 10:24 PM)

I would not release something if it had problems in it and call it finished! That would not be a finished product. More like a incomplete version. It can be a very nice product, but in the end it would not make a 1.0 mark, just maybe a 0.96. I actually think Blazer should cover these problems, because he is covering himself everywhere else he posts!! He tries to degrade himself before anyone else does (look at all his recent posts on Serenes Forest lol ), which is a little sad And then tries to protect the mod by saying, "Only I can make videos of it first!!" because other people have been making jabs at him and the quality of his work lately.  Some times it feels like Blazer is appeasing bullies, and then bullies others

Tell that to every game developer that has a glitch in their game or an inconsistency in the plot or something else you don't like.

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I would not release something if it had problems in it and call it finished! That would not be a finished product. More like a incomplete version. It can be a very nice product, but in the end it would not make a 1.0 mark, just maybe a 0.96.

I agree with this. "Finished Product" would imply that everything is to the greatest standard it can be. People have been trying to defend Blazer, saying he's worked so much, if he's truly on the final sprint of this project, then what he actually should be doing right now is going back and refining his product.

If he isn't at the refining stage, then he's not truly anywhere near close to having a finished product, simple as that. Sure, not everything can be fixed, but to use the idea that perfection is unobtainable as an excuse as to ignore issues in your own game which have been repeatedly and consistently pointed out, thus refusing to fix these errors and problems before releasing it as a whole and call if finished, is a joke.

This is why Skyrim to me, is a joke. If I walk into a store and pay $100 for a game and then as I'm walking through the world, all the water suddenly disappears, wtf?
I know this is a fan game, but that shouldn't take away the level of professionalism needed in the art world. If you refuse to fix your errors, then you yourself are contributing to the lowering of standards in modern art.

Blazer, instead of passing off peoples comments, complaints and criticisms with the notion that you've "worked constantly and so hard", you should be taking these in and trying to fix whatever you can before the product is finally released.

I can understand not fixing things if you're only a few chapters in, or half way, but if you're nearing the very end where you're discussing the hack as a near-finished project, then you've indeed got to start focusing on ironing out all the problems.

[Lancer]

...So in the height of this serious debate, let's all love and shut up.

Just gotta let Blazer do his thing. His hack, and I'm sure the finished product will be beautiful. The small details really don't matter for the most part, and they're being cleaned anyhow.

[flyingace24]

Seriously guys. This is getting ridiculous. You guys are acting as if he doesn't give a shit about it and is refusing to fix anything. If you think he's not trying to fix whatever he can before it's released you are mistaken.

Like I said before, the "problem" in this discussion is merely a graphical opinion. It's hardly game-breaking. Now if it was, then I would be on the other side of this argument.

I can't believe I'm actually getting into this right now. Stuff like this makes me wonder why I even came back.

[fuzz94]

So Blazer! I never played this before, or even downloaded it to be honest. I think once FEE3 is done and I don't have to worry about chugging away at my project for hours and have some free time (and when the final version is released, and I'm done with Death or Glory) I will absolutely play this. After all, it is the most complex of your hacks.

Anyway, looking forward to the final product man, keep working at it.