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#61 Seraphinox

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 08:34 PM

Okay okay,

Lugh should definitely be above Gonzales, Lugh comes earlier, attacks Resistance which is very low on most enemies, Comes a lot earlier, can actually hit the enemy, has good enough speed and dodge

Echidna, Shin and Asthol all need to be above Fir at least (Rank *)

Igrene needs to be a lot lower then Rank A

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 09:33 PM

Klein at least above Igrene. Hard mode bonuses and he comes with a shiny Silver bow.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 02:36 PM

Okay, gonna do this by rank from the bottom up. What I feel needs changing, Agree, Disagree, debate, argue... PLEASE

Rank E
- Okay okay, why is Bartre below Renault? In terms of the gameplay backstory means nothing, Bartre comes a lot(a lot a lot a lot) earlier and is much more useful

- Niime above fe:6 Bartre, Bartre provides aboslutely nothing to the game, Niime can use all the staves and has an amazing Physic range, she can defend herself averagely through the use of Nosferatu as well

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:47 PM

Sure why not, let's go by Ranks. Starting with F rank.

Rank F
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Wil
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Wolt
Sophia
Wallace
Karla
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Yunno
Wendy

Wallace could go up. Even as a premote he's not that bad as a wall. He's useful in that huge ass Cog of Dawn chapter where you have to hold off lolweak Nomadic troopers.

Also Bors and Barth should switch. Bors has more availability, actually has decent speed and Barth shows up too late like Wendy and Barth's speed is horrible. Also everyone says Bors shows up when there are only axe users, well SO DOES OSWIN as a fact, and Barth shows up RIGHT BEFORE THE AXE ISLAND KNIGHT MURDER FEST.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:03 PM

I don't think so, Wallace comes kind of late and doesn't really do much, He won't make your starting line up while the same goes for Sophia, she gets you a guiding ring which you desperately need
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:22 AM

QUOTE (Seraphinox @ Jun 24 2010, 09:36 AM)
Rank E
- Okay okay, why is Bartre below Renault? In terms of the gameplay backstory means nothing, Bartre comes a lot(a lot a lot a lot) earlier and is much more useful

Staves and attacking Res.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:53 AM

Lugh>Gonzales. Lugh is essential in the beginning of the game to take out high defense bosses, knights, and wyvern riders. After that, he still makes a great unit. Gonzales comes late, starts at a low level, and you need to use a hero's crest on him to promote.

Erk> Dorcas. Erk has magic, which means more damage to enemy units with his extremely high speed. Dorcas has low speed, and other than his strength and Hp, his other stats are mediocre.

Lowen, Sain, and Kent> Harken.Sain and Kent have high movement, great stats, and come in handy in a lot of situations. Harken comes late, and brings little to you.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 05:49 AM

I agree with all of them, but Harken doesn't suck. He brings little? He brings RNG-proof bases, hard mode bonuses, the only Brave Sword in the game, and brings the fact that he doesn't cost you anything to promote. :/

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 09:24 AM

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He doesn't come late, Ch.9 isn't very late, Sophia comes late.
And the bit about the Hero Crest is a moot point, we're not bringing him down just for that, we aren't bringing Rutger and Dieck down for them needing Hero crests are we?

^^^Oh yeah, Staves that will be used about twice, Renault is around for half a chapter at most, while bartre is required for around 6-7 chapters, Bartre easily has a lot more usefulness then Renault does in his half a chapter
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE (Seraphinox @ Jun 27 2010, 04:24 AM)
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He doesn't come late, Ch.9 isn't very late, Sophia comes late.
And the bit about the Hero Crest is a moot point, we're not bringing him down just for that, we aren't bringing Rutger and Dieck down for them needing Hero crests are we?

^^^Oh yeah, Staves that will be used about twice, Renault is around for half a chapter at most, while bartre is required for around 6-7 chapters, Bartre easily has a lot more usefulness then Renault does in his half a chapter

What's Bartre's usefulness? His piss-poor bases? His getting doubled by 80% of units? His always requiring healing help, and always requiring RNG to give him SPD-ups to be able to actually survive? You have to use that garbage for nearly 30 chapters in order to recruit one of the worst units in the game. You HAVE to promote him to 20/5 to engage and survive Karla. You call that useful?

Renault can Physic people, if not, Fortify them. He attacks Res, despite his lolMag. He's got 15 def, doesn't get doubled, and has like ~45 HP? So he is kinda durable, and helps Survival rank, not only for his healing ability, but for the Fortify staff. He's more useful than you think.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:10 PM

Wolt to bottom of E tier because he can do some actual useful crap in his 5 free chapters that the other people above him can't do (his chip damage is rockin).
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