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[Axel]

It seems we have something in common, weak mother figures, and fathers who are pussies, if I was him, and conceived an amazing person like you, I would cherish that fact, and try to make your life the best it could be, now you may not get my meaning in all of this, me being terrible with words and shit, I don't mean to offend you because all though he hates you, he's still your father.. be that as it may, he sounds like an asshole, he needs a lot of hugs, and he's a pussy, and you deserve much better than that, anyway, I'm gonna go drink a bottle of water and take a nap. Peace off.

[Avenged]

QUOTE (arimibn @ Jun 22 2012, 05:22 PM)

If I knew the answer, I wouldn't have asked. The thing is, I DIDN'T know what most people thought. And so, I ASKED. I can assume what people will say, but you can't exactly stand firm on something you haven't confirmed. I was pretty sure that most people would say, "No. Don't do it." BUT. How can I go on, "I'm pretty sure."? So I asked. And I am glad at what the answer was. Last time I did this, the answers were different.

We're decent people here who don't want someone they moderately know to die. It's easy to make that conclusion.

Also, even AFTER we said to not do it, you still go on about how you want to kill yourself. That's the main reason as to why I think you're trying to ride the pity train.

[arimibn]

@Pie I love my father a great deal, in fact, I'm glad I have him. I can't blame my father for making mistakes because I know he didn't have a father in his life. I will always cherish and love my father. And to be honest....I even respect my father somewhat. He served in the military. He's a veteran. And even now, he still works for law enforcement. I'm very proud of that. No he wasn't a very loving father, but he made me who I am today. And Pie, it's good to hear that I'm not alone in that regard.

@Avenged You must have missed a few things then.

I said "I love my life so much it's ridiculous."

The point I'm trying to make is that, no matter how much I love my life, I will kill myself in a heartbeat if it means a better life for others.

While it may be easy for YOU to make that conclusion, can you honestly believe that it would be easy for someone who's had their family disregard them to believe that someone who only moderately knows them wouldn't do the same?

You obviously have not read all of the posts I made in this topic. And from what you did read, you didn't understand it. And I'm certain because your first post was, "Da fuq did I just read?" So you obviously didn't get it.

So I shall say this.

I don't want to die. Not at all. I have plenty of things in life I cherish.
However
If my life is causing others to endure pain and suffering, then I would gladly give it up.
BUT
Seeing as though you all told me not to, I won't do it because your opinions matter to me.

[Avenged]

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I do think about suicide

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I personally think I'd be doing the world a favor by letting myself die.

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But I consider it selfish for me to live knowing that people may be dying because of it.

You know we care that you're alive. I'm sure many people are this forum consider you their friend. So it is fair to make that conclusion.

[arimibn]

If I lived under normal conditions, it'd be safe to draw that conclusion, but if my FAMILY didn't, can you blame me for being unsure?
I do think about suicide because I wonder if it would make people's lives better.
I did think I'd be doing the world a favor by letting myself die.
I was pretty sure you guys cared, but I wasn't sure. So I asked.

[Avenged]

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If I lived under normal conditions, it'd be safe to draw that conclusion, but if my FAMILY didn't, can you blame me for being unsure?

It's basic logic skills.

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I do think about suicide because I wonder if it would make people's lives better. I did think I'd be doing the world a favor by letting myself die.

You know what our answers would be because we've said them before, which is why I came to the thought that you were trying to get pity.

[arimibn]

It's basic logic to believe that your family cares about you more than anyone else in the world.

It has not been directly stated before. This topic is only one day old.
While people have said that they considered me a friend, is it wrong for me asking what my friend thinks of me?

Even if most people would draw that conclusion, I'm not most people.

I am the person who's had people make attempts at my life, despite the fact I once saved said person's life.

If people can treat me like that, is it so wrong for me to be unsure?

Have you never been unsure before?

I didn't assume people hated me and kill myself. I was uncertain on what I should do, so I asked.

[kirant]

QUOTE (arimibn @ Jun 22 2012, 01:52 PM)

In regards to what Kirant said, It is anemia. And while I know of other ways to treat it, I simply don't have the money for them.

I will sound like a broken record like this, but vary the diet up still. Start trying to run down the options and see if any of those work.

QUOTE (arimibn @ Jun 22 2012, 01:52 PM)

You live in Canada. I live in America, one of the most greed driven countries in existence. No. Doctors are NOT as nice as you think. I've yet to meet a doctor who would treat someone for free. Where I live, doctors purposely give you wrong diagnosis and stuff, just so you KEEP COMING BACK and giving them more money. While yes, from what I've heard, Canada is a nice place, that isn't the case here.

I would generally disagree. I work with doctors all over (San Diego, Hong Kong, Edmonton [Canada], Montreal [Canada], New York) and it's pretty standard that they work to their Hippocratic oath pretty well. A few jerkasses who are in it for the money, but many work because the WANT to be in the medical field.

We could be hitting a statistical oddity here where you've only seen the dark side (alternatively that I've only seen the nice side).

Alternatively, it's a problem with the whole purely private health care.

Either way, few are willing to give incorrect information. To do so is a violation of the Hippocratic oath. It's all a guessing game, which is where this sentiment generally comes from. Medicine and geophysics are the two purely subjective arts...you really can't find out what's right until you get further in. My mother went to 3 doctors and got 3 different prognoses...all wrong (long story short: Cancer. Detected early enough though).

QUOTE (arimibn @ Jun 22 2012, 01:52 PM)

No. I have not falsified my claims at all. I really do need blood. My best friend's father is a well known surgeon, and he himself told me what was wrong with me. And he also told me pretty much what you did. I found out on my own that back in like...the 1600s people drank blood to keep themselves healthy from anemia. And that is where the whole story of Vampires came from.

So, just to make sure, you've gotten clearance from the medical staff to be handed blood packs after telling them you're anemic? And they basically filled out a few forms and handed to you? Because that I think was my only concern with the whole "you're stealing" side of things.

On the whole blood thing, I'd ask your friend's dad what he suggests. If he's the one suggesting (and possibly writing prescriptions!) blood, then keep doing what you're doing.

QUOTE (arimibn @ Jun 22 2012, 01:52 PM)

My father tried to KILL ME. My step-mother SAW me cutting arm with a knife, SAW all the blood, and TOLD me "I don't care what happens to you. I'm not your mother." THAT is EXACTLY what she said. I don't warp things in my favor. Hell, most of the time I warp them out of my favor. I remember when the police asked me what my father did to me, and I LIED to them and said he just yelled at me. Ya know why my father still got in trouble? Cause he did it all in front of my little brother Ismail. And on top of that, my body was messed up. You could SEE the imprint of his knee in my chest, you could SEE the imprint of his hands around my neck. How could I cover for him at that point?

I apologize. Again, I have no fataing clue what your household relations are like. It's all just projection off pretty insignificant numbers.

I would look to get out though. You're probably close to, if not, 18 and can make active decisions yourself. As much as you might end up sounding like a burden if you do this, but try to move in with someone. At least get out of your household scenario though. It's pretty obviously toxic.

[arimibn]

@Kirant I AM trying. It's just simply not working.
And yes, the doctors know full well my case.
And maybe you've met a lot of good doctors. I, on the other hand, haven't.
And just because someone says they aren't in it for the money, doesn't mean they aren't.
But does that mean all doctors are evil?
No.
Does it mean they're all nice?
No.

And thank you for clarifying. Now I don't have to feel guilty about it knowing that there's nothing wrong with what I'm doing.

But trust me. I am trying to find alternate solutions.

While yes, I do have anemia, it isn't all that's wrong with me.
So the whole, "change up your diet" won't always work.

I am not an everyday case.

If I find an alternate solution that I can afford, believe me, I'll take it.

And I've TRIED to refrain from blood. But you know what results those yeilded.

And I will move out when I can. I am simply, unable to right now.

[Furetchen]

I don't have the willpower to push through the rest of this sickening thread.

QUOTE (arimibn @ Jun 21 2012, 01:38 PM)

While I was over at Serenes forest...Someone else commented on it...Seph did. He said, "You drink blood you creep."

That's because you drink blood. You creep.

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Well, basically I have blood problems. And I don't have the money to treat it normally. I later found out that back in like the say...1600s, people who had this problem drank blood to keep themselves healthy.

Was this on the wall of a public bathroom written in shit?

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And that's what I do. I drink blood I get from the hospital. (I discussed about it over at FEShrine.)Cause if I don't, well...it'll be bad for me. And while most people will say, "Just go to a doctor you dumbass and stop robbing hospitals." 2 things. 1. I only drink donated blood that is willingly given to me. 2. Doctors are not as nice as people think.

THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN TO YOU. If a doctor won't give it to you anyway, then guess what? You're probably making your 'blood problems' up. You know about medicine? Medicine exists! Get on medication! You are seriously fu(ked up!

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And to be honest, I never really saw a problem with it until about a month ago when someone commented on the topic. After said person found out I wasn't stealing this, they made this comment. "That blood could go to someone who's dying, but NOOOOO you just keep on drinking it."

I could kiss that man.

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That comment made me feel horrible. What if they're ARE people who are dying to keep me alive? And to be honest, I still feel this way...I drink blood to keep my blood regular, and if I don't I start acting strange, but I would much rather die if it's really that much of a problem...I've tried to refrain from drinking blood, and it's had the following results.

You're going cold turkey on blood and getting medication

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Passing out several times. Me losing blood at random intervals. (Such as through coughing up blood.) Having..."episodes". Stuff like that...

Okay, think of it this way. Instead of a list of symptoms caused by going without blood, think of these as symptoms caused by whatever the fu(k it is you have you 'need' blood for. Then tack onto the end 'CREEPY AS FU(K ADDICTION TO HUMAN BLOOD'. Then get actual help and medication for it.

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I want you to be honest. Do you think I should let myself die? I don't really know..."

What? No! That's a ridiculous thing to spring to! GET SOME ACTUAL MEDICATION.

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That was a PM I sent to someone on Serenes Forest. And I ask you guys this same question. I don't want you guys to be nice to me. I want you to be honest.

I don't want you to die, but I don't seriously think that you'd kill yourself at the instigation of faceless crowds over the internet.

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Do you think I should let myself die? From what I've noticed, many of the people I've told myself would miss me, don't even notice when I'm gone for weeks. I personally think I'd be doing the world a favor by letting myself die.

Jesus christ you're messed up. GET MEDICATION.

ugh i forgot about the frankly juvenile swearing filter
at least use an awesome one like SA's purely for the benefit of the unregistered

[Oblivion Knight]

I don't see the point of bumping an old thread just to personally insult someone. Besides, you're aren't even a frequent person on here which simply posting in this thread makes it fairly suspicious that malicious intent was intended.

[Furetchen]

He drinks blood and/or is probably just trollin' y'all. So I ask, one way or another, why isn't he banned?

Besides, it's within a month.

[Oblivion Knight]

What about it? If he needs blood then that's his own personal affair. Yes it's a little out of the ordinary but that doesn't give anyone a right to judge him for something he needs to deal with personally.

[SmashedFish]

So a necro to say that you're being a massive ass? You know, there's spamland for a reason bro.

[Furetchen]

jesus christ do you seriously and legitimately believe he actually needs blood

Moving swiftly onwards, I like how you suspect me purely based on how I'm relatively inactive. This must be why FEShrine is such a hub of activity nowadays, that everyone outside of the current sphere of movement is suddenly suspected of anything.

EDIT: One month. That is the necro limit, at least on SF, and even then it has a provision that as long as it's on the first page it can fly. This was less than that. Deal with it.

[SmashedFish]

Nah, we tend to look towards those that find outdated cries for help and try to butcher the person who needs it. I'll admit, coming out of ****ing nowhere in which you are not a previously active member to do so doesn't help.

Do I believe that Arim has anemia? Yes. Why? Why not?

Edit: >mentions necro rules on SF
Well guess what, we're not on SF.

Anyway, it's still a clearly resolved topic which you are bringing up for no constructive purpose, which sounds awfully like a necro.

Edit 2: Anyway, of all things to flame, you pick a random guy who didn't explain his actual disorder correctly and attempt to tear the shit out of him. Big of you.

[Cheshire]

Just because you're a vain, self centered drama queen doesn't mean your opinion matters. Go back to where ever you came from, you judgmental prick.

And, no. You don't get to move on, you can just swiftly get the fuk out. And stay inactive.

[Furetchen]

'Most commonly, people with anemia report nonspecific symptoms of a feeling of weakness, or fatigue, general malaise and sometimes poor concentration. They may also report dyspnea (shortness of breath) on exertion. In very severe anemia, the body may compensate for the lack of oxygen-carrying capability of the blood by increasing cardiac output. The patient may have symptoms related to this, such as palpitations, angina (if pre-existing heart disease is present), intermittent claudication of the legs, and symptoms of heart failure.

On examination, the signs exhibited may include pallor (pale skin, mucosal linings and nail beds), but this is not a reliable sign. There may be signs of specific causes of anemia, e.g., koilonychia (in iron deficiency), jaundice (when anemia results from abnormal break down of red blood cells — in hemolytic anemia), bone deformities (found in thalassemia major) or leg ulcers (seen in sickle-cell disease).

In severe anemia, there may be signs of a hyperdynamic circulation: tachycardia (a fast heart rate), bounding pulse, flow murmurs, and cardiac ventricular hypertrophy (enlargement). There may be signs of heart failure.'

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Passing out several times. Me losing blood at random intervals. (Such as through coughing up blood.) Having..."episodes". Stuff like that...

These aren't the same symptoms.

'In severe cases of anemia, or with ongoing blood loss, a blood transfusion may be necessary.'

Okay. Blood TRANSFUSION. So why doesn't he have those instead of DRINKING BLOOD, because, y'know, nothing says 'medically sound' like simply drinking the shit. This is ignoring that the other treatments mentioned are, like, vitamin tablets, not DRINKING BLOOD.

[Falaflame]

Nice job Furetchen. I never liked your ass, and this post pretty much sealed your fate. Spilling your garbage face in a topic over a month old is one thing, but to do it when you're barely active in the first place is another. You're from a garbage site who deserves an owner who doesn't give a shit about FE, so who gives a shit about you?

While at it, go ahead, and tell your owner of your gay site, VincentASM, that I specifically request him to sell his site to a bulldozing industry company, or some stupid lowlife asshole who doesn't give 2 shits about FE because that's how I feel about his site's ungrateful garbage memberbase and what it means to FE's stature.

[SmashedFish]

QUOTE (Furetchen @ Jul 11 2012, 05:35 PM)

'Most commonly, people with anemia report nonspecific symptoms of a feeling of weakness, or fatigue, general malaise and sometimes poor concentration. They may also report dyspnea (shortness of breath) on exertion. In very severe anemia, the body may compensate for the lack of oxygen-carrying capability of the blood by increasing cardiac output. The patient may have symptoms related to this, such as palpitations, angina (if pre-existing heart disease is present), intermittent claudication of the legs, and symptoms of heart failure. On examination, the signs exhibited may include pallor (pale skin, mucosal linings and nail beds), but this is not a reliable sign. There may be signs of specific causes of anemia, e.g., koilonychia (in iron deficiency), jaundice (when anemia results from abnormal break down of red blood cells — in hemolytic anemia), bone deformities (found in thalassemia major) or leg ulcers (seen in sickle-cell disease). In severe anemia, there may be signs of a hyperdynamic circulation: tachycardia (a fast heart rate), bounding pulse, flow murmurs, and cardiac ventricular hypertrophy (enlargement). There may be signs of heart failure.' QUOTE Passing out several times. Me losing blood at random intervals. (Such as through coughing up blood.) Having..."episodes". Stuff like that... These aren't the same symptoms. 'In severe cases of anemia, or with ongoing blood loss, a blood transfusion may be necessary.'

Ok Dr. Wikipedia, thanks for your all-encompassing diagnosis.

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Okay. Blood TRANSFUSION. So why doesn't he have those instead of DRINKING BLOOD, because, y'know, nothing says 'medically sound' like simply drinking the shit. This is ignoring that the other treatments mentioned are, like, vitamin tablets, not DRINKING BLOOD.

And yet he directly claims that drinking blood helps. HMM

Anyway, I'm not wasting dinnertime on a dumbfvck like you. Enjoy your probable incoming moderator action.