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#41 ZeroTheXXXII

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 11:53 PM

What time is this hack coming out, cause I wanna play ohmy.gif

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 01:21 AM

Aww, he'd fit in perfectly...
Ah well, FE6 doesn't have blinking frames so... yeah
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:45 AM

Lol, not exactly.

Also, the patch is now out-- Download Fire Emblem: Sacred Contention

It really wasn't my intention to delay the hack until a dozen or so minutes before midnight, but people visited us 3 times today, unexpectedly, without any warning or foreknowledge that they would be coming and interfering with today's plans. Otherwise I would have likely gotten this out like 4 hours ago (which is still later than I wanted, but oh well...).

At least I'm done. I'll be uploading screenshots, videos, etc. later. Enjoy!

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:43 AM

Downloaded,I'll comment after playing some.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:56 AM

Err, I downloaded it multiple times and the only .ups files are the alternate modes...
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 05:49 AM

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Err, I downloaded it multiple times and the only .ups files are the alternate modes...

1.Unzip release Folder.
2.Drag Clean FE7 rom to unzipped Release Folder
3.Drag Clean FE7 onto 'Drag Game Here'
4.XDelta makes patched rom (it has 'patched' in it's file name)
5.Play from there.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:49 AM

Played and won as the FE7 side! The game was fun and I can't wait to beat it as the other side. I got stuck for awhile at the end because I couldn't find a seize option with anyone! So I just went onto the castle and I won smile.gif

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:15 AM

Finally finished both modes.

Comments and Suggestions
1.FE8 Units have better stats and better weapons: I'd suggest making it more even, for example, Marcus has an Iron Sword... IRON, in other circumstances, units like Raven and Harken have bad equipment and are weighted down to their death.

2.Supports: Some units only had supports going one way. For example Rebecca and Wil both have A with each other in addition to B with Dart, however Dart only has B with Geitz,Innes and Tana have Hayden for A but Hayden B's Tana and doesn't support Innes, Vannesa B supports with Moulder and Gilliam but they don't B support her,also Hayden,Knoll and Duessel supports themselves.

3.Fado:He's missing a chibi and an affinity, Eirika and Ephiriam have A support with him, but he doesn't with them.

4. North Village can't be visited, regardless of mode.

5.Drussel only has 2 CON,Merc found this out.

6.Binks:He has an A in sword rank as a Warrior which I don't understand.

7. The Difficulty gap is quite large between modes, in FE7 Mode I lost more than half of my units, however I only lost like five units in FE8 Mode, I'm not sure if that was on purpose as a hint as to how easy of a game normal FE8 was or how FE7 was more challenging than FE8 was, but I suggest balancing the opposing modes a bit more.

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In FE7 mode, you can recruit Rennac by talking with Legault thus attaining his Silver Card. On the flip side, I'd assume on the FE8 mode you can recruit Matthew to get his Secret Card because there is a secret shop, of course, I wasn't able to recruit Matthew but I did steal his Membership Card though.
Anyway, the secret shop location is the grass tile just below the cave entrance below the starting point for FE7 mode.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:11 PM

The hack is not bad, but you should increase the stats of the FE7 char a little bit and give them perhaps better equipment. Also the readme.exe should written more down and not right (for more easy reading).
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:35 PM

@Rujio it uses XDelta since some people aren't smart enough to understand UPS, just follow Oblivion's instructions/the ones in the "Patching Instructions" file (it's patch type 2).

@S84 PATCH thanks man. It says in the status menu what to do but a lot of people don't look there, to no one's fault. I can't make any character seize a castle, unfortunately, so my only option was to make it so that you have to wait there to win.

@Sleipnir characters' base stats are based off of average stats for level 20 units, unless they are former bosses, in which case I added stats appropriately such that they aren't too broken and the flow of their stats is still the same. For example, if Lloyd has high strength and high defense for a swordmaster, when I boosted his stats, he'd still have relatively high strength and defense. (Just a fake example)

Also, I did my best to balance the equipment on both sides so that they have each kind of weapon and neither side has totally hack weaponry that pwns the other side. I also balanced the legendary/really cool weapons (Durandal, Armads, Sol Katti, Aureola, and Forblaze, vs. Sieglinde, Siegmund, Audhulma, Gespenst, Rienfleche, Basilikos, FE8 has one more legendary weapon but FE7 actually has a couple more characters than FE8 so it's fair).

I don't get what you mean with the readme.txt, can you explain that please?

@Oblivion Knight as I said before, I can't edit stats, and FE7 has a couple extra units as well. I played as the FE7 side and it was pretty easy to beat the FE8 side, I had tons of units left over, and I pretty much recklessly charged. Idk how easy the FE8 side was because I haven't gotten to play my own hack yet but from what a friend said, it was just about the same, maybe a little harder. :\

Alright I'll have to fix up the supports I guess... inserting the supports took forever, it's SOOOO much work, especially to organize... anyhow, I'll fix the stuff that you mentioned.

Yeah Duessel is because the Great Knight doesn't have any base con I don't think and I forgot to fix it... Binks, I don't remember that glitch, but I'll have to fix that too. Man my betatesters sure did miss a lot of stuff.

The north village works fine for me, I just tested it. Idk what to tell you. :\

Anyhow I'll play FE8 mode and see if it's too easy and if it is I'll boost up FE7's inventories (to my dismay).

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Also, you can't recruit Matthew, so if you want his member card, you have to steal it, like you did. There are however some other characters that can be recruited, but unless you play on still mode the two sides charge at each other so quickly that it's hard to do any recruiting (and there's little need for shop or village visiting). Still, I think it's a good addition to the game.


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Posted 02 July 2010 - 05:38 PM

Then why the instructions for patching the ROM with NUPS in the first place, then have instructions later on how to do the extra modes?

Aw, crud. That means I have to do with a NDS emulator, and I don't have one anymore. In my experience, they've been finicky, and I don't really want to deal with that right now... Although, I want to try out FE12 ASAP, so I'm gonna have to get one anyways...

Edit: Great, now the XDelta isn't working, and I have no idea why. I redownloaded everything and tried again, and it still says that it can't complete it. And it doesn't give a specific error, just tells me to make sure I'm using an unedited, unpatched ROM. Does XDelta have problems with Windows 7?
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:19 PM

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try dragging and dropping the game where it says "drag game here" (or something similar). I did that since xDelta wasn't working and it worked just fine on my gpsPhone emulator. I'd assume that means it'll work on a VBA as well if you do the same.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:35 PM

Did that, can't patch it >.>

Aw, well, if Blazer's gonna release an updated one with all the bug fixes, I'll just wait and see if that one works.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:09 PM

Blazer, I like the hack and all, but....

Why are you going to send in the entire cast of FE7 characters if you're not gonna include the MANLIEST OF ALL MEN by the name of Fargus?

I suggest just throwing him in there with Silver Axe and Tomahawk, with a support with Dart.

As for the FE8 side to counter the Fargus addition, why not bring in Beran? (yeah, remember the Ranger boss in Ephraim Mode?), give him a support with Valter/Glen/Selena (whichever), and give him Lancereaver/Silver Bow/Longbow?

That would pretty much cover everyone in both sides.

Good job though; looking forward to the addition of FE6 and FE9 units! (If you ever plan on that)

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:19 PM

I agree with the addition of Fargus, I mean he did take Dart in and saved his life.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:29 PM

What? Why would you need a DS emulator? That makes no sense. ._.

What error message does it give when you drag your clean FE7 ROM onto the "Drag Game Here" file? If it says the input file is incorrect then that means just that--you're using the wrong ROM.

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try dragging and dropping the game where it says "drag game here" (or something similar). I did that since xDelta wasn't working and it worked just fine on my gpsPhone emulator.


XDelta IS the "drag game here" thing. You don't click on XDelta, you just drag your ROM and that's it. It's the easiest patching method anyone can think of. T_T

I'll include a UPS in the updated version.

@Ledah whoops, sorry, I forgot to make a post in the front saying I am not listening to any requests for characters, support relationships, specific inventories, etc... No offense to you, I had not planned on listening to any requests from the start. I don't have any room for any more characters (I had to take out some, in fact) and Beran is an insignificant character that hardly anyone can remember (I only added Binks and Gheb as a tribute to their respective joke hacks and because FE8 had less characters). Anyhow, I hope you don't take offense to me declining your request, and I am NOT just going to update the first post because you asked, DH_Ninja and I had planned on it from the start. Sorry man.

Oh, and, if you didn't get the answer to the FE6 part, no, I can't do that, and I definitely can't do FE9 due to lack of sprites amongst many other things... XP

Anyhow I'm hoping that my schedule will finally loosen up again so that I can make the bugfixes and get screens/videos up, and then say "bai" to this 80-hour hack. biggrin.gif

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:40 PM

Ahh, I get it now, FE7 vs FE8.
My only complaint (aside from the others) is why can't Lyon summon? And myhrr could fly over mountains before, did you remove that to make it more even?

Another thought, why not have the fire dragon and fomortiis in there at the castle just for kicks?
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:40 PM

I love the game and all of what you did, but there's one little flaw...
There was a glitch that corrupted the FESC file and I had to download another...

Basically from what I remember, It was during turn 3's FE8's phase when their paladin (I think it was Amelia) killed Sain.
At the beginning of FE7's turn four, the camera shifted to Epiram instead of Lyn. I make on move left and Innes switches places Nergal.
Seeing this glitch to my advantage, I made an attack on Ephiram, his health went down to below 0, the battle ended, and the screen went all glitchy...

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:47 PM

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Ahh, I get it now, FE7 vs FE8.
My only complaint (aside from the others) is why can't Lyon summon? And myhrr could fly over mountains before, did you remove that to make it more even?

Another thought, why not have the fire dragon and fomortiis in there at the castle just for kicks?

Animations, it's very difficult to import Fomortiis, and Black Jack was playing FE7 to clarify.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:50 PM

QUOTE (Blazer @ Jul 2 2010, 03:29 PM)
What? Why would you need a DS emulator? That makes no sense. ._.

In the Patching Instructions.txt file, it says
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I assumed that I'd have to use a DS emulator to run the DS Version.
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