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[Rujio]

Because Forde's really good. Why does everyone here hate Kyle? Seth's better than Kyle, yes, but he's better than everyone. He should be above Colm.

It doesn't matter if Tana and Vanessa can fill Syrene's role. She's in bottom for a reason. The thing is, she can do things without needing to suck at combat. Ewan and Marisa do.

Forde's up there because he's really good. Kyle has slightly lower speed and resistance and luck, but higher defense, strength and HP. Forde's leads really don't ever do much for him. In 5x, any combination of the units there kills the enemy, so everyone's combat is pretty close. Kyle has better durability (Defense>Resistance). Then in chapter 8, it's the same story. In chapter 9, Forde doubles like, 1-2 units that Kyle doesn't, and there are a few mages in there. Hey look, Kyle wins against 80% of the enemies. And before too long, he has no trouble doubling. Then he wins against everything except mages. Wow, mages, they sure make up the bulk of enemies.


Gilliam has big issues. There's a 17% chance of him not getting speed after 5 levels. That's too high for my liking. And 4 move in this game isn't very good, especially when we've got paladins and mage knights and rangers and flying units out there that do just fine in combat AND are way ahead of him. I'd say high tier is too high for him, but we don't have an upper mid tier, so he can stay where he is.

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[Rujio]

His offense and concrete durability are less than spectacular. If someone gets a list of things he steals, we could compare that to Seth's awesomeness and see who wins.

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[Rujio]

That's why we need a list of what he steals...

[Dath]

Did I mention Gilliam?

Orson is wai bttr than Syrene. He had the balls to defy the player. Syrene couldn't even die properly.

[Dave Strider]

Top Tier
Colm switch w/ seth necessary. not even that much to steal in this game
Seth
Franz
Moulder
Vanessa
Lute wtf? lute is srsly overrated here. down plz.
Eir. Eirika
Eph. Ephraim
Eph. Duessel

High Tier
Forde
Eir. Gerik
Artur if lute is top tier arthur is right next to her, super-similar availability and lolslayer vs. all the monsters is win. artur up or lute down.
Natasha
Eph. Cormag
Joshua personally I think he should go up a little, but meh.
Eph. Eirika
Kylenext forde. they are easily equal in usefulness
Gilliam

Middle Tier
Garcia
Ross the hell? ross takes massive babying and isn't impressive enough at the end to be worth it. under Tana is where he belongs.
Neimi
Eir. Ephraim
Eir. Innes
Eir. Saleh
Tana
L'Arachel
Eph. Gerik
Eir. Marisa
Eir. Duessel

Low Tier
KnollLolKnoll. 0luckFTL. Really guys? Above Rennac, who at the very least has theiving utility? wtf?
Rennac
Eir. Cormag
Eph. Innes
Eph. Saleh
Amelia
Myrrh

Bottom Tier
Dozla
Eph. Marisa
Ewan
Syrene
OrsonOrson is a temporary character and shouldn't even be ranked.

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[Dave Strider]

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*Hasn't played FF10*

And yes, he's there as a joke. And he stays there xD

[Dave Strider]

[Rennac]

Cormag's at low tier? WUT?

[Dave Strider]

[Rujio]

He comes with an Elysian Whip. Instapromote him and he doubles basically forever. He can go up.

Seriously, people need to debate more. I've mentioned Syrene and Kyle up, and no one's really said anything about either of them.

Knoll can instapromote and use staves and summons. Being helpful with nothing but a promo item you pick up first turn anyways is good.

I could argue Orson could go up above anyone who's ever hurting the team. He's basically mini-Athos

I agree with Ross.

I could see Colm going below Franz, honestly.

Lute and Artur could switch.

[Dave Strider]

[Seraphinox]

How could Colm go below Franz? Colm has nice stats, growths and thieving utility

[Dave Strider]

[Rujio]

Take his weapons away. He's now an invincible wall that's only make life easier and not taking any experience away.

Knoll can just be awesome. Insta-promote, and he now has summons and staves. We rarely even need to go out of our way to protect him because he has summons to fight, and if you can get his staff rank up to wield physics, well that would just be awesome. Although I don't see him raising any higher than Eir. Marisa at best, and I doubt that would happen. I guess if you look at it though, the only negative he has is taking that master seal and then he's forever helpful. He actually has potential to go up quite a ways, but that isn't happening.

I found more issues.
Eir. Ephraim, Innes, and Saleh need to go up. Ephraim's great while he's there, so there's no way we can say he's only average, Innes actually has good stats and is good for a long time without any training since he has auto silver and potential bow monopoly. Saleh's essentially Innes with one range and staves.

I'll just make a list of what things people have brought up, and we can work on one or two of them at a time.
Artur up.
Kyle up.
Amelia down.
Colm down.
Joshua up.
Orson up.
Lute down.
Joshua up.
Ross down.
Eir. Cormag up.
Eir. Saleh up.
Eir. Ephraim up.
Eir. Innes up.
Syrene up.
Moral of the story: Don't take tier lists from gamefaqs. They have lots of issues.
Anyways, where do people want to start? We've got quite a few changes people are looking to make.

[Seraphinox]

Artur up. Perhaps
Kyle up. No
Amelia down. Perhaps
Colm down. No
Joshua up. Why?
Orson up. Why?
Lute down. Why?
Ross down. Yes
Eir. Cormag up. Perhaps
Eir. Saleh up. Perhaps
Eir. Ephraim up. no
Eir. Innes up. No

[Tino]