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#21
Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:43 PM
FE10 I understand, Shinon is a boss and a half in FE10.
#22
Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:48 PM
QUOTE (Rujio @ Jul 15 2011, 01:29 AM) | ||
Eh, Nino isn't thought much of outside of rather old GameFAQS stuff. I dunno if she's still hyped over there now, but most of the fandom seems to accept her awfulness. |
True, and I never really thought of her as awful. It's more on really bad timing and by then, I have a superior Pent or Erk. I basically would feel like I had wasted a crap load of EXP if I give them up for Nino. It seems only reasonable.
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The problem isn't so much training characters as it is training characters who don't start very good (Edward has a rather mediocre start in NM and a really bad one in HM) for someone who's virtually identical in the end. Same thing with Rolf and Shinon. Shinon starts better than Rolf, and in the end they're basically the same. The good start is especially important here, too, because, as an archer, EXP is hard to get if you aren't killing stuff in one round. |
I can understand where you're coming from. Especially with Rolf and Shinon in PoR. It's like the usual argument with which beginning cavalier is better. There's one more in strength, and the other more in speed. Same thing goes with Rolf and Shinon, and they become virtually equal in the end. My problem with Shinon is like with Nino, he comes in a lot later, and often times by then, I've trained Rolf who ends up being superior. Overall though, it's more like pick your favorite. I just don't like all the hate on Rolf because he's pretty equal to Shinon when you take the time to train him.
However, the "virtually equal" thing with Edward ans Zihark in RD doesn't work. Especially when you compare the overall average stats. Take a look here.
http://serenesforest...age/edward.html
http://serenesforest...age/zihark.html
Now when you compare these two, Edward ends up with the overall greater stats by a long shot. So I wouldn't call these two virtually equal. Zihark has better resistance, but that's about it.
And whoever just told me PEMN, I find that VERY hypocritical of you to say that, especially when I have facts with me. I noticed you bashed on Edward and compared him with Zihark. If I may point to you the stats I just posted, it kinda sounds like you're using your own personal experience and then go off giving me crap that I use personal experience.
I'm just being honest there. And before people rage on me, I'm not hating on any characters here.
#23
Posted 15 July 2011 - 07:40 PM

#24
Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:01 PM
The RNG goddess can be fickle or benevolent, but averages are pretty much set in stone. Averages are determined using only growth percentages.
#26
Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:47 PM
PEMN = null and void for an opinionated topic.

#27
Posted 15 July 2011 - 09:10 PM
QUOTE (Bobryk @ Jul 15 2011, 04:47 PM) |
Guys. The point of this topic is PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. >.> lawl. PEMN = null and void for an opinionated topic. |
well said sir

#28
Posted 15 July 2011 - 10:08 PM
QUOTE (Coolperson1145 @ Jul 15 2011, 11:48 AM) | ||||||||
True, and I never really thought of her as awful. It's more on really bad timing and by then, I have a superior Pent or Erk. I basically would feel like I had wasted a crap load of EXP if I give them up for Nino. It seems only reasonable.
I can understand where you're coming from. Especially with Rolf and Shinon in PoR. It's like the usual argument with which beginning cavalier is better. There's one more in strength, and the other more in speed. Same thing goes with Rolf and Shinon, and they become virtually equal in the end. My problem with Shinon is like with Nino, he comes in a lot later, and often times by then, I've trained Rolf who ends up being superior. Overall though, it's more like pick your favorite. I just don't like all the hate on Rolf because he's pretty equal to Shinon when you take the time to train him. However, the "virtually equal" thing with Edward ans Zihark in RD doesn't work. Especially when you compare the overall average stats. Take a look here. http://serenesforest...age/edward.html http://serenesforest...age/zihark.html Now when you compare these two, Edward ends up with the overall greater stats by a long shot. So I wouldn't call these two virtually equal. Zihark has better resistance, but that's about it. And whoever just told me PEMN, I find that VERY hypocritical of you to say that, especially when I have facts with me. I noticed you bashed on Edward and compared him with Zihark. If I may point to you the stats I just posted, it kinda sounds like you're using your own personal experience and then go off giving me crap that I use personal experience. I'm just being honest there. And before people rage on me, I'm not hating on any characters here. |
Lol, twisting my words much? Zihark is about equal( look at those averages again) to Edward stat-wise, and doesn't start falling behind a bit in stats until 20/20/10, and even at 20/20/20, Zihark is only behind by a few points in each stat. And with Zihark, you don't have to risk 19 levels of leveling-up, hoping he will turn out as good as the competition. Along with that fact, the 1,900 EXP(2,000 if you raise him to level 21 to promote) could go to Nolan or Jill or even Aran. What does Zihark require to get good during the Dawn Brigade chapters? No EXP.
And if that isn't enough, you are not taking supports into consideration. Not only does he have the broken Earth affinity, but so does one of the best members of the Dawn Brigade, Nolan. IIRC, Zihark and Nolan get +40 avoid at an A support( which should be achieved somewhere around part 3ish) and by that time, Edward is at the same level and is 40 avoid behind Zihark.
By using Zihark over Edward, you save 1,900-2,000 EXP, have basically the same stats until almost part 4 endgame, no worries of him turning out bad while becoming a swordmaster, and get +40 avoid. What does Edward have? 2 more in each stat then Zihark at 20/20/20, when most units don't even reach that level?

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#29
Posted 15 July 2011 - 10:18 PM
#30
Posted 16 July 2011 - 12:41 AM
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#31
Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:57 PM
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#32
Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:17 PM
QUOTE (Felover3 @ Jul 16 2011, 11:57 AM) |
I never use any axe users in almost any Fire Emblem because I hate ax users for the most part. The only exceptions being Hector and Geese and the h4x fighters of FE5. |
Haha no love for Geitz it would seem.
#33
Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:53 PM
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Bobryk -- holy crap I look away for two seconds and I have knots all up in my shit |
#34
Posted 16 July 2011 - 09:12 PM

I won't remove this until I get a killtacular in Halo MLG- Started December 29, 2010.
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Bloodfalcon22-pokemanzz cnt dye FELover3- If I beat the shit out of them they do |
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Rujio -- Cows are more important than anything. Rujio -- ANYTHING |
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Blood Falcon -- Hey bblues, are you able to ban the GoogleBot? bblues -- I don't think so. Blood Falcon -- Damn, lol. bblues -- He's above the law : P |
QUOTE (Grey_Tensho @ March 10, 2010 04:07 pm) |
Bloodfalcon is as crazy over copyright as youtube is lol. |
#35
Posted 18 July 2011 - 09:01 PM
Gonzales' skill is even worse than Fe7 Dart, so I don't even consider him. (Seriously, 7-12 skill as a level 1 Berserker? No thanks.) Plus, Fe6's RNG makes it even harder to hit with ~70% hits.
But I agree with Blood Falcon, there are definitely not enough hero crests to go around. Plus with great characters like Rutger and Dieck...it's hard to sacrifice one for a sub-par axe user.
Conversely, I think most of the axe users in Fe10 are godly. Nolan, Boyd, Haar...they're all awesome.

#36
Posted 19 July 2011 - 02:51 PM
Yeah, FE6 had too much comp for hero crests to make axe users worth it, unless serious RNG wreckage came around.
#37
Posted 19 July 2011 - 03:19 PM
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#38
Posted 19 July 2011 - 03:27 PM
#39
Posted 19 July 2011 - 04:34 PM
I remember once having an Alan who could wield Durandal, Armads and Malte, which was kinda awesome XD

#40
Posted 13 August 2011 - 11:58 AM
All FE GAMES: All the Pegasus Knights > Dragon riders/Wyvern Riders are better then you in every way. I would rather wait a bit until I am further in the game to get a Wyvern Rider, then put up with you crappy wannabe Wyvern riders.
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