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#21 Fire Blazer

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 05:39 AM

The dozla crit? No, not scripted... The valter one? No, not that one either. tongue.gif

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#22 Fire Blazer

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 09:26 PM

I just updated the first post with new information on what it actually is. Tell me what you think of the idea, please. happy.gif

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:02 PM

Which side is Anna on then?
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:16 PM

Hm. Anna is probably a judge or something.

What I'm interested in, do you get to pick your side?
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:18 PM

Eh, I don't mean to be negative (because, let's face it, I kinda come off that way some times), but the plot information basically makes it just Yet Another Crossover Hackโ„ข. Sure, a ton of people like that kind of stuff (and, 5-6 years ago when I first played FE7, I probably would have agreed, given that we were only on the cusp of FE8 and I remember seeing a battle scene that someone had thrown together showcasing Limstella vs. Sonia using the FE8 template which kind of introduced the "You can play as people from the first game? ohmy.gif" effect), but at this point, it's been so overdone that it just frankly bores me.

Heck, and no offense to you, even TU kinda falls into that territory since it's placing itself into a world that already exists. Maybe it's just a case of having more refined tastes as a result of being older and having management experience in the community, but that kind of stuff just seems far too prevalent. Now, with TU, you've got a ton of other stuff that's new and that kind of stuff, so I can easily forego the whole "prequel/sequel to an existing game" aspect (and, really, when it comes down to it, it's the hacker's decision about what they want to convey, whether I like it or not - in some cases, I'm quite certain that certain people make their fan-created prequels/sequels due to the love they have for the game that they're adding breadth to, which, if that works for them, then so be it).

Plus, there's the whole issue with the length. It's kind of hard to make something thoroughly unique (new characters, maps, plot, etc.), while only having one chapter, unless it's on a very large map and it offers some kind of "gameplay" mechanic that is somewhat unique to FE (for example, maybe something like an AW-esque single chapter where you get a bunch of mook units and a couple of actual allies and have to lay siege to an opposing army of equal or so force - you get the idea).

So, tl;dr summary:
- As with any kind of project at this point in my life, I'd much rather play something that was (completely) new and inventive rather than the same crossover type of stuff we've seen for years.
- However, that takes far too much time and effort (especially to do effectively), so to expect that from something that is clearly not intended to do that is, frankly, unfair to you guys.
- Plus, it's your project, so I can complain all I want, but at the end of the day, all that means is that if I don't like it, then I don't have to play it. Because, there are inevitably people that do want to play it and you seem committed enough to this, so you must really want to make it.

Hope that's helpful in some way. >_>
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#26 Fire Blazer

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:59 PM

@Felover Anna is neutral, of course.

@Holy Kensai yes you do.

@LG If I really wanted to, I could rename the places in Tactics Universe and alter the maps and I'd have the totally new game that you're looking for. The fact that it takes part on Elibe is thanks to the idiots who made the initial plot idea before I took over the hack.

As for SC, unlike most crossovers, I do it thoroughly. I've put tons of hours into this hack and I plan on making like 10 alternate patches meaning 100 possible alteration combinations of the hack are possible. I haven't actually decided how many I'll do, I could do a couple more or less, but that's not significant to the point that the hack is unique.

The game does take place on a huge map--a 43x36. You can play as FE7 or FE8, meaning twice the replay value, meaning even more uniqueness.

If TU isn't new and inventive enough for you because it reuses some names, a couple maps, Renault, and has the ancestor of Erik in it, then maybe just wait for Fire Emblem Chronicles, unless cameo characters ruin that totally new feeling, in which case I'm afraid you'll have to wait for a hack that will never be complete, unless Gorilla Gadek goes totally new and inventive as well.

Oh, and, like you, I had no intention of being harsh or anything, I'm just discussing your thoughts. biggrin.gif

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 11:22 PM

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unless Gorilla Gadek goes totally new and inventive as well.

While I'm not sure whether I'll go back and completely reinvent Gorilla Gadek SG to be a super unique hack, I do have a follow up planned that should be fairly unique compared to most other Fire Emblem hacks. I'm not going to reveal much, but I will say that it won't be a "direct" sequel, but it will be a sequel, and it's basically a re-imagination/fusion of a couple other projects I was playing around with before (one of which I've actually shared something from previously).

But enough hijacking the topic to try to hype up a future project of mine. XD

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 11:46 PM

Well, then I guess that means there won't be any truly unique and new hacks. Oh well, what to expect from us.

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 11:53 PM

Kinda hard to be "truly" unique when, you know, deviating from it too much makes it a new game and not a hack.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 04:19 AM

^A hack can be a 'new game' too... ._. As long as you don't remake a ton of stuff from scratch, it is a hack, 'else the game starts to become more of a homebrew...

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:48 AM

Yeah, but my point is that to be s unique, it'd pretty much have to be homebrew. tongue.gif Otherwise you can argue that it's just a rehash. tongue.gif Most gamers aren't that "hardcore" *cough*anal*cough* to think it though. Not insulting Glenn.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 04:37 PM

I suppose FE8 isn't a new game, because it reuses some graphics and gameplay mechanics amongst many other things? :\

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:47 PM

Depends how jerkish you want to be really. Realistically you can super jerkish and say every Fire Emblem game is the exact same game. Or you could be anti jerkish and say that every Fire Emblem game is completely different from the others, including remakes.

Basically my point is, you're the creator, you decide how "unique" you want it to be.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:59 PM

lol, ok then... ._. tongue.gif

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 08:57 PM

Whoa, clam down there son.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 09:33 PM

^Err, what are you talking about? Spam post much?

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 10:00 PM

No, not you blazer, kensai. Takes things a bit too seriously.
I agree with you, FE8 does do that, but a new storyline does count for something.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 01:28 PM

I didn't think you were talking to me, but still... It's not really your place to tell someone to calm down on a forum plus it never works when you say 'calm down' online. Anyhow, point is, please don't drag the topic offcourse again. Thanks Uphir. smile.gif

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:07 PM

Sorry... Man I keep doing that don't I?
But back on topic, you ever fix that necromancer animation?
And is Zephiel going to be in this?
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:46 PM

Yeah, and i uploaded a vid, I just haven't updated this topic with the vid. I've been so busy... and I hate being busy in the summer, which should be my free time. >_>

No, Zephiel is not in this.

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