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[arimibn]

That's the trailer.

I've already decided. I'm getting this game.

Pokemon Black was AMAZING.

Simply AMAZING.

I've played every single (main series) Pokemon game ever MADE.

But Black stood out.

I actually could listen to the music and feel PUMPED.

The Pokemon were badass.

The main character wasn't 10 years old for once. He was 16. (THEY'RE ACTUALLY AGING NOW. OMG.)

N was a truly unique character. ONLY Pokemon "Antagonist" (wouldn't really call him a villain. He ain't evil.) to CATCH AND KEEP the legendary Pokemon. And you HAVE to catch the opposite Legendary, and you HAVE to battle his legendary with it. It's AWESOME.

Zekrom was badass. Haxorus was badass. Hydreigon was badass.

I ENJOY battling the Elite Four. They're not just used for EXP training anymore, though they are GREAT for this purpose because of how strong they are!

While Alder was a disappointing champion character wise(He's still a fierce opponent. The Elite Four of Unova are just that ELITE. Their pokemon are in the 70s in level for crying out loud! I haven't seen a Pokemon that leveled since GARY'S Alakazam!), they made up for that with the inclusion of Cynthia, who you can battle in the Spring. And did I mention, The seasons change. The game was SO interactive.

I was not disappointed with Black OR White AT ALL.

And after looking at this trailer? I'm definitely gonna buy the sequel.

[Holy Kensai]

Eh. Completely different view. I didn't like Pokemon Black and White. While some of the new pokemon were more like the originals, they weren't good.

And N was stupid. He was a hypocrite and a failure.

About the video.

The glasses are stupid. The blue hair is stupid.

THEY OUTNUMBER US. LET US FOCUS OUR FIRE ON ONE POKEMON.

Nah, this looks pretty disappointing to me. They need to start changing things up. Why would I buy inferior versions of old games?

[arimibn]

That's your opinion. Thank you for your input. I still like the game though. Personally, I don't see how you liked the old game, but didn't like Black/White.

Honestly though, did you even PLAY Black or White?

And if you did, then answer this.

If they released Pokemon Red, but didn't change anything, would you still enjoy it? You may have just grown out of Pokemon.

[Holy Kensai]

I've played the same game so many times. Black and White didn't add anything new, just made the story stupider and added shit pokemon. And the philosophical arguments of Black and White were so idiotic it made me glad I pirated the games and didn't give Nintendo any money.

Yes, I played them both.

That's a silly question. Fire Red was awesome.

[Golden Warrior]

I have good things and bad things to say about these new games.

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GF, they finally made a sequel that is on a handheld. 5 years later is awesome!

I liked N, despite his hypocrisy, I still think he's cool. :|

As for the new Pokemon, some are better than others. (Bisharp!!!)

Reshiram gained 70% more coolness with the Kyurem form!

Cheren as a gym leader? NO WAI!

The world battle tournaments seem cool. (not bad face)

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New trainers... WHY?!?! I liked the B/W ones perfectly fine! (The B/W ones look cooler too.)

Zekrom gained a 70% lower coolness with the Kyurem form...

Unova half frozen... Why? Why not just give us new areas without destroying the others? I don't know.

Some new gym leaders are... weird.

All I can say is, I loved B/W and will probably like B2/W2. But, no Pokemon game will ever beat the place Pokemon Yellow, Pokemon Emerald, and Pokemon Fire Red have made in my love for Pokemon.

That's it for me.

[arimibn]

@Well, like I said before, would you play Fire Red NOW? Black didn't add anything new? HA. You DID NOT play the game then. I can CALL people in Pokemon now! And that's just ONE of the features! Also, the pokemon are CONSTANTLY ANIMATED. N was NOT a hypocrite. He was USED. If you PLAYED the game, you'd know that. N is, in my opinion, the best antagonist I've seen. I enjoyed battling him. I don't recall Giovanni breaking out Mewtwo on me. And I don't recall being forced to use Mew against him either.
N is a Legend Vs Legend battle. And the cutscene before that was friggin EPIC. I haven't seen something that gave me that feeling since Pokemon EMERALD when Rayquaza flew down from the sky to stop Kyogre and Groudon. And again, maybe you've just grown out of Pokemon.

@Gold They didn't get rid of the old trainers. This is years later. The guy in the trailer is someone else. And I like this idea. This is the 2nd pokemon game to be a real sequal.

At the end of Black, Bianca become the professor's assistant. In Black 2, she's the assistant. Cheren becomes a Gym Leader.

And yeah, I don't like that they destroyed the Old area, but at the same time, it fits the plot more in my opinion. Cause you know, Kyurem being completely ressurected might have an aftershock. Zekrom destroyed N's castle room, didn't he? XD

And Zekrom doesn't have a Kyurem form. Kyurem has a Zerkom form.

But it's good to see that you're rating this game as it is. Not rating it based on another.


That's like doing this,

"What? I can't create a custom character in Tekken? I can do it in Soul Calibur!" "Well this isn't Soul Calibur."

Yes the games are from the same series, but the two are VERY different games.

FireRed and Black are different games.

And if you're complaint is that it "got rid of the old pokemon" then you haven't played the game.

I caught a DRAGONITE in POKEMON BLACK. You can't even do that in FireRed!

[Holy Kensai]

Yes, I would. Obviously. That's why it is a silly question.

Black and White added a few graphical additions, that's all. All in all, it did not add anything new to the series, all it did was rehash and ruin. The features added were minimal at best. They were pretty useless.

OH NO NOT A LEGEND VERSUS LEGEND BATTLE. THAT IS SO HARDCORE. Seriously? Because a battle between two pokemon who have slightly higher stats than average is what defines a game. And N is an idiot. N is the pokemon version of PETA. "No killing animals! It's inhumane! Don't look while we drown these thousands of cats".

No you see, your analogy fails. Because I am not comparing Pokemon to Digimon. I am comparing Pokemon to Pokemon. It's like comparing Soul Calibur 4 and Soul Calibur 5.

Yes, they are different games. Red/Blue/Green is good. Black/White is shit.

Alright, start actually reading my posts. My complaint was that almost all the new pokemon were shit. And also, I haven't grown out of pokemon, stop trying to use that defense. It's not working. Maybe you're just too young to actually appreciate pokemon.

[Golden Warrior]

Ok, ok. Let's just be friends here. Everyone has different opinions. Let them fly, and opinion is an opinion.

Yes, B/W was nothing compared to the old games. Yes, the old games were better. But, no, that doesn't make B/W the most idiotic creation ever. Not to mention, why talk about B/W when this topic is about B2/W2.

That is all I will say to avoid contradicting myself.

[arimibn]

@Eh? I was trying to say, and still am saying, that you most likely didn't play the game because you said they didn't add any new features. And even if you did, I doubt you completed it. Maybe I'm to young to appreciate Pokemon? Uh, I'm not the one saying that it's shit. I NEVER bashed FireRed. I merely stated that it doesn't have the features that Black has. And yes, I said you may have grown out of Pokemon. Because the thousands of younger children who play Pokemon, (who are the target audience BTW) think Pokemon is AWESOME.
WHY do I think you didn't really complete the game, because you say it's just a simple graphical enhancement. One. I can CALL other Pokemon trainers directly through the game. You can VIDEOCHAT through the game. YOU CAN CATCH A EFFIN DRAGONITE IN THE WILD. The Pokemon are CONSTANTLY animated in battle, and you can catch EVERY POKEMON via Dreamworld. Were these features in FireRed? No. They weren't. So that's a lot more than a graphical improvement, and on top of that, I personally think the graphics in Black are STUNNING. Have you SEEN Skyarrow Bridge? In my opinion, that view is beautiful!

Also, I don't recall N killing any Pokemon. In fact, (This is another reason I think you didn't play the game.) he says, and I quote, "I was led to believe that trainers only used their Pokemon as tools of war...but every Pokemon I talked to had nothing but good things to say about their trainers. Am I on the right path? Or are you? Let us clash! And prove which of us is right! If you are right, then you definitely won't lose!"

And after he realizes that Ghetis USED him, he HELPS you beat him.

But, N is just a character, you don't HAVE to like him. If your opinion is that he's a hypocrite, then alright. My opinion differs from yours in that regard. Don't state your OPINION as a fact. If I came off as rude, then I apologize, but you came off rude as well.

@Gold You have a point. I enjoyed FireRed thoroughly. That was an amazing game. But like you said, Black and White were NOT bad games, in my opinion.

[Holy Kensai]

See, you're again falling on the defense of "you haven't played the game" showing you have no real argument.

But since I'm nice I'll address the moot points you make anyways.

The new features are worthless. Calling trainers? That has been in quite a few pokemon games. Yay, they added skype to the game. It adds so much. CATCHING A DRAGONITE. OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY. Constantly animated falls under little graphical improvement. You can catch every pokemon in Fire Red.

Yes, you are too young to appreciate Pokemon. It's quite easy to tell. You haven't played the classics so you can't tell that Black and White were shit compared to the others. Black and White are pretty much Pokemon for the lazy people of today.

I never said N killed any pokemon. I said PETA did. The comparison stands. N is against owning pokemon, but still owns them? It's like a slave owner being against owning slaves.

No. It is NOT an opinion. It IS a fact. N is a hypocrite. My opinion is that he is a poor character, and that is based off how his only personality trait is being a hypocrite. You have to learn the difference between opinions and facts.

If I came off as rude to you, it's because you have no real idea about what you are discussing. You mention old features calling them new, you make poor claims, and you are completely arguing for your opinions.

The facts:
New features added: Constant animation, triple battles, rotation battles, seasons. None of these drastically change the gameplay.
Pokemon added: No good pokemon were added.
Characters: N is a hypocrite, Team Plasma is wimpier than Jessie and James.
Plotline: Stupid philosophical debate that summarizes to "it's okay to own living things".

Your opinions differ from these, and they're wrong, but that's okay. Just stop trying to act your opinions are the truth.

[Fire Blazer]

lol don't be so harsh Kensai, everything your saying is opinions too, whether you admit it or not. Labeling them as "the facts" doesn't change that, either. Now who's the hypocrite lol

B/W2 looks cool, I'll almost definitely get it, but only because of my childhood feelings for Pokemon, the series itself isn't great anymore, IMO. But oh well, I'll still enjoy Pokemon regardless. XP

[Golden Warrior]

Blazer, that last paragraph were my unexplained feelings. I couldn't say that earlier, even though I wanted to, I just didn't know how to put words to it. (Sheds a single tear) You're epic, bro.

QUOTE ( Going on my sig)

The series itself isn't great anymore, IMO. But oh well, I'll still enjoy Pokemon regardless.

[arimibn]

Because I'm just that great a person, I will say that you're right. Just to end the argument. Happy now?

[Zepher Tensho]

QUOTE (Holy Kensai @ May 26 2012, 02:04 PM)

See, you're again falling on the defense of "you haven't played the game" showing you have no real argument. But since I'm nice I'll address the moot points you make anyways. The new features are worthless. Calling trainers? That has been in quite a few pokemon games. Yay, they added skype to the game. It adds so much. CATCHING A DRAGONITE. OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY. Constantly animated falls under little graphical improvement. You can catch every pokemon in Fire Red. Yes, you are too young to appreciate Pokemon. It's quite easy to tell. You haven't played the classics so you can't tell that Black and White were shit compared to the others. Black and White are pretty much Pokemon for the lazy people of today. I never said N killed any pokemon. I said PETA did. The comparison stands. N is against owning pokemon, but still owns them? It's like a slave owner being against owning slaves. No. It is NOT an opinion. It IS a fact. N is a hypocrite. My opinion is that he is a poor character, and that is based off how his only personality trait is being a hypocrite. You have to learn the difference between opinions and facts. If I came off as rude to you, it's because you have no real idea about what you are discussing. You mention old features calling them new, you make poor claims, and you are completely arguing for your opinions. The facts: New features added: Constant animation, triple battles, rotation battles, seasons. None of these drastically change the gameplay. Pokemon added: No good pokemon were added. Characters: N is a hypocrite, Team Plasma is wimpier than Jessie and James. Plotline: Stupid philosophical debate that summarizes to "it's okay to own living things". Your opinions differ from these, and they're wrong, but that's okay. Just stop trying to act your opinions are the truth.

Can we not go there? So what if he is too young to have played the originals. Pokemon is pokemon is pokemon. You don't see me slamming young Sonic fans for "being too young to truely appreciate Sonic" do you? No, because that is a retarded arguement. He's free to appreciate the old games all he wants thru emulators and ROM's if he wants. You can't get mad at someone for liking the newer games just because YOU are stuck in the old school and don't like the new features. You may think all the new features are shit but, news flash, your opinion =/= fact. So what if he's excited for the new stuff that you think is dumb? Let him. Also just because someones opinion differs from yours, does not make him wrong.

ON TOPIC

I already preordered B/W 2 and I CAN'T WAIT! I wanna see where things are going with the region being half frozen, and then you have the world tournament, where you can battle all the past gym leaders and Champions! Talk about nostalgia trip! I can't wait to pummel Giovanni into the ground and wipe the smug look off his face >=3
Also Bianca went from nerdy to LASKJDF SEXY

[arimibn]

I've played every main series Pokemon game in Existence. XD I guess he thought I was bashing Red. He must not have payed attention in the first post.

"He's still a fierce opponent. The Elite Four of Unova are just that ELITE. Their pokemon are in the 70s in level for crying out loud! I haven't seen a Pokemon that leveled since GARY'S Alakazam!), "

Pretty much said, "I haven't had this much fun since Pokemon FireRed!" XD And that IS what I meant too.

Also, " I enjoyed FireRed thoroughly. That was an amazing game."

I don't know what I said to make him think I didn't like the old games. My first was Pokemon Silver. And Yellow was epic. XD

ON TOPIC.

I entered a contest to win a copy! I can't friggin WAIT.

Lol Bianca took Cheren's glasses. XD

[Zepher Tensho]

QUOTE (arimibn @ May 26 2012, 07:11 PM)

I've played every main series Pokemon game in Existence. XD I guess he thought I was bashing Red. He must not have payed attention in the first post. "He's still a fierce opponent. The Elite Four of Unova are just that ELITE. Their pokemon are in the 70s in level for crying out loud! I haven't seen a Pokemon that leveled since GARY'S Alakazam!), " Pretty much said, "I haven't had this much fun since Pokemon FireRed!" XD And that IS what I meant too. Also, " I enjoyed FireRed thoroughly. That was an amazing game." I don't know what I said to make him think I didn't like the old games. My first was Pokemon Silver. And Yellow was epic. XD ON TOPIC. I entered a contest to win a copy! I can't friggin WAIT. Lol Bianca took Cheren's glasses. XD

ME TOO LOL! I even have a case for my iPhone that looks like a game boy with the title screen of Silver on the screen.

[arimibn]

Lugia did, still does, and always will have a special place in my heart. .w.

[Zepher Tensho]

QUOTE (arimibn @ May 26 2012, 08:00 PM)

Lugia did, still does, and always will have a special place in my heart. .w.

Same. It'll always be my favorite Legendary, even if its only good as a wall moreso than an attacker.

[arimibn]

Lol yeah. What starter did you choose?

[Zepher Tensho]

QUOTE (arimibn @ May 26 2012, 08:05 PM)

Lol yeah. What starter did you choose?

cydaquil at first, Chikorita on my second run. Never chose Totodile. I've never chosen a water starter in any game except for B/W, because Samurott is totally boss. Then again Snivy was my choice for my first run. Then when I fought Bianca and saw what Oshawott evolved into, I was like OMG WHY DIDN'T I PICK THAT