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[bblues]

God Tier

Colm
Seth
Eph. Route Ephraim
Franz
Moulder
Tethys

High Tier

Vanessa
Lute
Eir. Route Gerik
Eph. Route Cormag
Natasha
Eir. Route Eirika
Artur
Eph. Route Duessel

Upper-Middle Tier

Kyle
Eir. Route Ephraim
Gilliam
Joshua
Forde
Tana
Neimi
Eir. Route Innes

Lower-Middle Tier

Eph Route Gerik
Garcia
Ross
Eir. Route Saleh
Eph. Route Eirika
Eir. Route Cormag
Rennac
Amelia/Eir. Route Marisa
L' Arachel

Low Tier

Eir. Route Duessel
Dozla
Myrrh
Eph. Route Saleh
Eph. Route Innes
Eph. Route Marisa

Bottom Tier

Knoll
Syrene
Ewan

[Oblivion Knight]

Tana should be higher. Her strenght growth is beast for a peg. knight. I agree with Seth as highest. He can easly solo the game.

[Seraphinox]

Why is Orson on the tier list?
Colm above Seth. Thief utility + being unpromoted > Being a prepromote

Neimi above Ross and Garcia
Gilliam above Kyle

[bblues]

[Seraphinox]

Makes sense I guess, Orson above Syrene

Forde out of top tier, he's not that good

[bblues]

Especially due to other unit competition for the knight crest.

And yes, Colm should be top.

*Edits it*

[Seraphinox]

Neimi above Ross!!

*waits for Trainee fanboys*

[bblues]

[Seraphinox]

There are idiots everywhere you go.

If Lute is in top then how come Artur isn't? Artur even comes 7 turns earlier or so

[bblues]

[Oblivion Knight]

[Rujio]

Why is Cormag so low on Eirika's route? All he needs to be level 11/1 (Wyvern Knight) and he ORKOs almost everything and does just fine defensively. It's not like he's reaching 20/20, anyways.

Also, are we assuming no Arena/Tower/Ruins abuse, or minimal? If we're saying no, then Amelia should drop below Ewan. There's no way she's reaching a high enough level to become decent, while Ewan only has to go 10/10/1 to be able to summon and heal. And if we're assuming some, Ewan can go up. In fact, this makes summon and staff spamming easier because now we can give some easy levels here and there.


Also, why is Kyle so far below Forde?




And Eirika above Ephraim? Is this because she has early game? He has more strength and concrete durability and doubles everything with lances, and lances>swords. There are a more lance users than axe users, so she's facing WTD more often than WTA.

[Seraphinox]

^No tower abuse whatsoever. That would make debating pointless.

Amelia comes before Ewan and could actually get a few kills in.

Kyle is like a crappy Duessel, which is why duessel is higher

[Oblivion Knight]

[Seraphinox]

The best class for ingame Ross is Hero. Colm has theif utility, tell me how many other characters can open/steal the stuff in chapters 3-13??

[Rujio]

Kyle is like a CRAPPY Duessel? Have you compared their stats? Besides, I asked why he was lower than Forde, who's basically a crappy Franz.



Amelia is having a TON of trouble getting kills. Ewan has the same attack with Fire as she does with the slim lance, except he targets resistance. And Amelia has to get a ton of levels very fast to become useful. He doesn't need as many. She needs to be like, 10/20/1 for her endgame to be at all salvageable, and that's tough to get. Ewan only needs 10/10/1. It's not like she's getting 10 levels before he shows up with her AMAZING 8 ATK and horrible durability. He at least has decent offense at range.
Having 2 Range, needing fewer levels, and offering staff utility and summons>A few chapters more of availability where she sucks anyways, needing to fight at 1 Range where you barely do any damage and get destroyed if you miss, and then needing more training to get a below average fighter.

[Seraphinox]

They both suck. She comes earlier. Case proven

[Rujio]

She joins a few chapters earlier and doesn't do anything at all useful and never does anything useful without a ridiculous amount of favoritism. Doing more damage earlier, needing less experience, and helping the team more > Amelia.
And if they both suck so much, how come she's above Myrrh and they're both above Syrene? I mean, I know she sucks, but at least she's never as bad as they are.

[Seraphinox]

Haha, you're saying Ewan helps. He does about 5 damage to normal units and 7 to monsters. He's really helping. The only way he'll level is with complete favouratism.

I'm not saying amelia is the same but atleast she comes earlier...

[Rujio]

Basically, if you give her an Iron Lance, they're both doing about the same damage. Except she's getting ORKOd if she ever fails to kill the enemy. Ewan can at least attack from range. That way, he doesn't die if he misses. And he doesn't need as many levels. I never said he helps the team, I just said he helps more. He is easier train and doesn't need as much training. Amelia coming earlier doesn't matter because she's still sucking more for longer. He's taking fewer resources, thus he helps more. Besides that, healing and using summons > Fighting worse than the rest of the team. Until she promotes, her two range is pathetic, and then after, she still can't use only javelins practically. Which means she's still taking the risk of being one rounded in return.

You're saying that Amelia>Ewan because she joins earlier. Unless she gains like, 15 levels before he joins (lol), he'll promote before her, and then he does more for the team after promotion. He's a summoner when there is only one other person who can be one. She's a paladin in a group of what, a dozen fighters who do that job better than her?

Seriously, Amelia is way too high. She's above Myrrh who is always good, she's just limited to 50 attacks. Dozla can at least take killer axes after his battle axe runs out and critical reliably. Neither of them need training. Eph. Marisa sucks less than she does and needs less training. Syrene can be a utility unit and occasionally kill a unit we need dead besides running around rescuing, setting up triangle attacks (If we went Eirika Route, this current list implies that using Cormag is not a good idea, so using both Tana and Vanessa isn't unlikely) and could probably draw out magic enemies into another units range. The only reason Amelia shouldn't take worst place is because lolOrson is on there, and in fact, he could actually be much higher. He has a little positive utility, Amelia has a massive amount of negative utility.

Yeah, Amelia<Everyone else.