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[Ezra]

whoops! hahahah good thing I didn't continue on with my playthrough yet, I'll edit them into my previous post in a sec.

And thanks for the how the characters stand up to their averages updates.

You think Garcia is weird you should've seen when I had Thany with 18 def

[Akeiron]

Nah, don't mention it. I actually enjoy doing this kind of stuff.
About the Thany: that, good sir, deserves a "WTF" Face.

Well, back to work:

Joshua: ... Well, I don't know how to put this... I'll say "mid-high" because his Str and Def are higher than his average, and his HP, Lck and Res are average. But... his Skl and Speed, usually extremely high, are BELOW average. Usually, They are always way above average. Usually twice as much as the average (alright, perhaps not twice, but you know what I mean). Anyway, that doesn't really matter because his speed and skill are always very high and even if they are a few points below average, He should max both stats, anyway. Let's just hope that he doesn't continue like that.

[Ezra]

Well Joshua doesn't need too much speed to double most enemies so it's not that big of a deal, but it would be nice so he could dodge with ease.

Chapter 9 ( I took Eirkas route) 11 turns ( 76 turns total)

Vanessa killed the two pirates in the water, and she almost got killed by archers a couple times, but she either dodged or hung on by an hp or two. Seth charged through an ocean of enemies. Joshua, Colm and Garcia were a little behind everyone else, but they caught up eventually.

Chapter10 6 turns ( 82 turns total)

Vanessa rescued Seth and dropped him off near the arena and forts, Seth went for the ballistae archers, Myrmidon and Pablo, Vanessa rescued Eirika and dropped her off at the same spot next turn. Joshua and Garcia were taking care of enemies on the frontlines, and Colm was taking care of weakened enemies for exp.

[Akeiron]

This post is actually for two purposes:
First: just in case you didn't want to edit, I'm affording you a double post.
Second: In case you forgot about this challenge, just to remind you. A Challenge MUST be finished!! Seriously, I'm waiting for an update...

[Ezra]

I have no problem with double posting as long as I'm doing it for a good reason. ( It's against the rules if I just double, triple etc. posted for no good reason anyway.)

And I do plan on finishing my challenge, I've just been busy but I have some time now so I am resuming the challenge today and will edit them into this post as I finish.

But either way, thank you for the reminder.

now then...

chapter11: 10 turns ( 92 total)
Vanessa and Garcia went down south, Seth, Joshua and Colm went east, Colm used a torch so the Fog wasn't a problem, Seth's team easily went through enemies, Garcia and Vanessa barely survived, there were a couple of mogalls that could've killed Vanessa ( she had 1 hp left) so I used a pure water, the last two enemies were skeletons with Iron swords, Vanessa dodged both easily and the chapter was finished.

chapter 12: 10 turns ( 102 total)
I decided that if I wanted to get things done more quickly I should get rid of my stat boosting items, instead of holding them till the end and then using them, so I gave most of then to Vanessa, and some to Colm, I withheld a few. Vanessa charged went straight for the enemies in the mountains near Ewans village after defeating the first spider on the mountain, Seth went straight forward. Garcia is having a few doubling problems, but nothing major, the hardest part of this chapter was keeping Eirika and Saleh out of the way, I had to restart the chapter a few times because of that, so I had Joshua, Colm, and Garcia always stay near them, but all five would move forward, if enemies were near by Saleh and Eirika would continue on the path of cleared enemies that Seth made. Seth beat the boss with a killing edge before he could use that nasty halberd, and then Seth went right to kill the last enemy, an entombed. ( I love how much exp. they give you! )

Chapter 13: 3 turns ( 105 total)
Went straight for Aias, Seth was one point of str shy of killing him in two hits with an Armorslayer. Vanessa killed some archers down below ( she can take a few archers now) Seth and Garcia went for the pack of enemies, Joshua was a little bit behind but he got in a few kills for exp. Colm didn't do much asides from give Garcia a pure water to dodge the sleep stave. Aias had two hp left after Seth used him Armorslayer, Garcia finished him off.

stat update: ( some characters have help from stat boosters, mainly only Vanessa though.)

Seth
lv --/13 exp81
Hp42
str20
skl21
spd15
luck16
def19
res11

Venessa
lv 16 exp47
Hp32
str13
skl15
spd20
luck11
def11
res10

Garcia
lv 18 exp46
Hp39
str15
skl17
spd11
luck11
def8
res2

Colm
lv 12 exp99
Hp33
str11
skl11
spd15
luck12
def4
res4

Joshua:
lv 15 exp84
Hp33
str14
skl14
spd18
luck10
def9
res5

[Ezra]

chapter 14: 16 turns ( 121 turns total)

this chapter took a while because there was an ocean of enemies to kill and get through, Garcia is level 20 and will promote the start of the next chapter. Garcia and Joshua took care of the Shaman and Cavalier reinforcements, Colm rescued Eirika and everyone went straight up I reached the boss and used Seth and his silver lance to kill him, he pulled off an lucky critical and almost killed Seth but Seth prevailed! this would have been much quicker if it didn't take so long to get Eirika to the throne.

chapter 15: 20 turns ( 141 turns total)

Most.annoying.chapter.ever! it took a while, because of the huge amount of enemies. the first thing I did before I started the chapter was promote Garcia, I was going to make him a Warrior, but because of his strangely high skill and low str I made him a Hero. Seth took on both bosses in this chapter with some difficulty. Vanessa helped get Ephraim and friends to the top of the map to avoid combat. once everyone was at the top reinforcements were fought off until almost no enemies were left, then I slowly made my way to the bottom, got the master seal and promoted Joshua into a swordmaster. Vanessa promoted as well and became a dracoknight. everyone had less then 20% of their hp by the time this chapter was over, thank goodness for vulernarys. Colm promoted at the very end of the chapter.

also since I am getting the sacred twins next chapter I will see if Eirika and Ephraim can use them without promoting, but it will not be part of the challenge, it will be a separate save file just to see if it works.

[Akeiron]

Well, this time I'VE being the busy one, so sorry for not doing the RNG analysis in time (What's up with teachers doing exams on the SECOND FREAKING WEEK OF CLASS!!!)

But, It's never too late, or so they say. Also, I'd appreciate that you tell me next time what stat-increaser items you use on which characters, since it'll affect the analysis. If you remember, then please tell me. If you don't, it doesn't matter.

Seth: We can cure him. We can make him better than before. We have the technology... Disgracefully, the doctors were drugged when they were restoring you, Seth, and instead of using light, resistant and strong Platinum, they used resistant, strong and awfully heavy Steel. With this I mean that your strength and Hp are around the average, but your skll and defense are way above average. In excahnge, you have lost speed. Since your speed growth is quite high And I personally care a lot about speed, I'll reduce your calification to "mid". You lost offensive capabilities to bolster your defensive capabilities, but Power is usually more useful. Oh well, your still pretty good, as always.

Vanessa: Oh GOD, YOUR HP HAS BEEN GOD-BLESSED!!!!one!!eleven!! Kidding, it's pretty obvious that you used an Angelic Robe on her. You yourself said that you used multiplle stat boosting items on her. I'd say also that you gave her an Energy Ring and perhaps a DragonSHield. If you gave her all those items, then she deserves a very big "MID" because almost all her stats are around average
. If you didn't use Shield nor Ring, then "mid-high" for compensating her biggest weak points. If you used the Shield, still "mid-high", but a not so impressive mid-high; If you used the Ring, then "mid".

Garcia: Oh, Garcia, I see you have recovered from that weird-RNG virus!! Oh, wait, you didn't... Well, as everyone have guessed nad everyone can easily see, his strength is below average, quite a few points below average. And in exchange, his skill is far above average!! But, he is lacking attack, speed, defense, accuracy (axe-user=misses 50% of hits) and avoid. C'mon, Garica, This game is supposed to be the easiest of FE Saga with the best characters ever!! OH well, "Mid-Low", his speed and luck are above average, which is quite a deed, but all other stats are average and strength totally ruins his RNG-analysis.

Colm: (Angelic Robe used, no doubt) If you gave him an Energy Ring and a Secret Book, then "mid". His speed is sligthly below average, and that's the ONLY reason to actually use a thief, speed (this meaning, awesome speed growth, very hard for it to be low). But his other stats are around average and a lack of one or two points in speed is not enough to lower his rank. IF neither were used, though, it'd automatically transform into a "mid-high". If only one was used, then "mid-high", too, less impressive than the other; specifically, if the Energy Ring was the item used, then it's less useful and impressive even, bt RNG-wise, its the same result.

Joshua: I will assume that you didn't use any item on him. If so, then I really don't know what to say... Aha! THat's it! Garcia and Joshua traded souls! That's why Joshuas speed is slightly below average and his skill is extremely low compared to the average yet his strength and def are above average! Since this is gettiing very confusing, I'll give him a "mid". His strength increase's very good Rng-wise, but his skill decrease is unnatural, weird and very unlucky. But as a character, I think you have won more than what you've lost. A sword-user doesn't need a lot of skill to hit and his critical comes basically from the Swormaster-class boost, his speed is most likely gonna be maxed anyway and his strength and def raise is just what you needed to make a hard-hitting quick, untouchable character that even if hit, will endure many attacks. But RNG-wise, his skill has being completely Screwed and as said before, the analysis and calification, specially the last one, are RNG-wise.

[Ezra]

whoops, sorry I didn't say who used what.

I know Vanessa used a dragon shield and a angel robe, I think I gave her a talisman...

Colm used an angel robe, and I'm not sure if I gave him anything else...

I gave Joshua the boots, so he can keep up with Seth and Vanessa now.

chapter16: 7 turns (148 turns total) Colm rescues Eirika and everyone else clears a path to Orson, this chapter wasn't very long, nor was it very hard, everyone did take a lot of damage though. after clearing out all the enemies in a general radius, I placed Eirika in a spot where she could not be attacked close to Orson, Vanessa attacked Orson and got a critical!

chapter17: 3 turns ( 151 turns total) nothing much to really say here, I've been getting really lucky with Vanessa and pierce, with a silver lance she made easy work of Leon. I had Seth and Joshua start to head for Leon, but Vanessa killed him before they could get there.

[Akeiron]

Woah, woah, woah, too fast! You finished stage 17 in three turns? That's way too fast! without boots, in fact, it's the minimum possible amount of turns (without counitng a massive display of max-level magicians spaming Bolting, Eclipse and Purge at him, in which case you can win even faster) needed to finish this stage!

[Ezra]

That's nothing, I've beaten the final level in Path of Radiance in three turns.

[Akeiron]

With how many characters and under what conditions? This meaning, not only you won in three turns, but with absolutely no complication at all this time.

[Ezra]

well I was doing a draft playthrough, so the conditions were to beat the level with only the following characters:
Oscar
Kieran
Jill
Lethe
Zihark
Rolf
Ilyana
Ranulf
Giffca
Haar


And I found the forum I did the DP on so here's the exact post, just copied and pasted.
"ENDGAME!!!!
okay so the prolouge took me five turns, but the endgame took me only three. Giffca was a HUGE help, he killed a random enemy on turn 3! and that enemy wasn't in anyones range, Jill used a pure water and flew foward a little, shoved Reyson put Ike right next to Jill, Reyson used Galdr Jill went as far as she could, she dodged the sleep staff due to her boosted resistance, she dropped Ike off right in front of Ashnard turn 3 and got out of the mad kings range, Ashnard took a swing at Ike and did 26 damage, Ike only had 50 hp so now Ike used Resolve+Wrath 26*1.5+18= 57 damage -35=22*3= 66 60-66 = a dead ashnard by turn 3. it took me 167 turns total plus one turn penalty because of stupid shinon on chapter 7..."

End total: 168 turns